To those who live in States, or countries, where it is legal. Do you partake ? THC based, not just CBD.

I'm just not into taking recreational drugs, so I haven't done it. I suppose if there was medical reason to do it I would, but I've been lucky to not need it. I tried pot once many, many years ago and simply didn't like it. I didn't like not being able to focus and do things I wanted. I realize that there are different "dosages" that can have a lower impact, but my thinking is, "what's the purpose?" I just don't feel the need to take something to alter my mood or outlook. I prefer reality.

+1

I'm the same as Arthonon. I say the same thing to everyone I know: "whether pot is legal or not doesn't matter to me because I'm simply not interested".

I tried CBD oil gummies for insomnia issues, it worked ok, but no better than any number of cheaper solutions.

I probably should have specified. For medical reasons mainly. I deal with anxiety, and ptsd. There is much about my life I do not share here. 99.9% of it I do not.
I would be looking at using it instead of Xanax. As that is highly addictive. My Dr. told me long term use of Xanax can lead to dementia later in life. I am on a small dose, and use it much less than I am prescribed for. But I have been using it for a long time.
I smoked weed in the 80s when I was a teen, but had quit by my early 20's.
I don't drink, as I am an alcoholic. I drink my beers 18 at a time. I can't do a couple. Wish I could.
I quit drinking for good in 2002. Still crave it once in awhile. Now that beer is sold in every store, that doesn't help.
The thing in the 80's, you had no idea how strong the weed was. Now they have it down to a fine science. It's like talking to a pharmacist. Now in Ontario, there are as many weed stores as there are coffee shops.

Bottom line, I am not looking to get blitzed. Just fight off the d@mn anxiety attacks.
Now you know only don't know 99% about me.

Interesting thread,

For me the plant helps keeps me off the drink.

Ive never trusted pharma companies or doctors that hand there patients any ol tablet to shut them up and get them out the door.

My granny suffers from MS and i always skin her up a doobie but just 1 a day,

When she was taking medication the side effects were terrible and she was in pain every day,

Sometimes its better not to take these pharma drugs...

What a good grandson, twisting up a cannon for his Grandma.

You make a very good point about pharmaceutical drugs and their side effects.

THC has done less harm to society, than the socially accepted alcohol.
Mind you, THC has become very socially accepted in the last 7 years or so, where I live. That's when it became legal.

My brother in law lives near a shop, he says it is mostly people over 50 going in. Little old ladies.

+1 wango.

THC is a very relaxing drug just the same as alcohol when we start getting that Great felling of when we were all 20 year old bulls with balls bigger than brains lol.

Prob with thc plant is that it relaxes the human mind so much that we cant function as we should.

We cant drive or get things done the way we should.

I got a blood clot in my right calf when i was 49 a now im on 20mg blood thinners a day called xeralto.

In fairness they are great tabs and my doc tried to give me these stupid nerve tabs.

I told him straight out and in a the nicest way that i could :Never give me these EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS...

jJust be careful with the med system,

Remember its all about money and the pharma dudes will put you on multiple tabs to get what they want...

Be well.

When I was first going thru chemo and radiation I had terrible nausea and pain. I stopped eating. It almost got to the point were they wanted to put a feeding tube in me. I had several doctors offer to prescribe medicinal marijuana . In my desperation I tried a little of it. For me, it only made my anxiety worse. Like way worse. I was even given the kind that is supposed to relax you. It did not help my appetite either. This was not like the stuff of my high school and college days. I know it has helped many people, so I will not not denigrate it's use. In my experience with a long term illness, Benzodiazepines like Xanax and Ativan are for short term usage only. I know that coming off them can be difficult for some people. I hope you consult your doctor closely on this. I'm sure you will though. Good luck man.

Thanks LB4LB.
I hope your health issues are behind you.

The majority of SimHQ members are reaching our “golden years”. As such, conditions we have will get worse and we will develop additional ones. It is sad, but true.

Great post LB

My older bro went through four years of the rad and kemo,

But the dam cancer just kept coming back and in the end nothing worked ?



I think its great whn we can tell each other about these BAD kiillers of all mankind.

1 day we will give cancer a Kick in the nuts and then it will no longer tell us who will live...

Human man is the toughest creature on the planet and we will kill cancer when we learn how to give it a good slap back.

Amazing that we have just given covid a good slap back .

The bat failed against the human.

Or was it a bat???

Thanks guys. WT, I've been in remission for a while now. Only thing, all those surgeries have caused other issues. Nothing I can't handle though.

Glad you are in remission LB4LB.
That is a good point oldgrognard. Maybe we can lean on each other through tough times.
Some things may be to personal to share. As they may involve a family member, for example.
The best thing we can do, is remember we are all human, and realize we have no idea what may be influencing each other's lives.
Personally, I know I could be more kind. Something I will work on.

It's not that simple because while some cancers are due to negative lifestyle habits like smoking and excessive alcohol use, other cancers are due to inherited genetic mutations. We would essentially need to find a way to re-write human DNA in order to fully stamp out those genetic mutations.

That's tough. It's also how crazy different people react to the same stuff. A friend of mine is going through round 5 or 6 of cancer (keeps coming back) and the marijuana he takes is the only reason he has any appetite and can keep what he eats down.

I may be cynical. But I don't think the pharmaceutical industry will allow cancer to be truly cured. (unless it relied heavily on medication, even then patents are time limited).
The Cancer research industry would suffer if a cure was found.
We are still using chemotherapy, which was introduced in the 1960's. It's a horrible ordeal for someone to go through. Surely we should have evolved to something less harsh by now ?
Yet with Aids an "cocktail" was found in about 15 years. It does not cure the patient, but they can live a normal life.

And with my tin foil hat on tightly....population control.
Do I have faith in mankind to do the right thing versus financial gain ? For most of mankind, no, I believe money talks.

The cynical part of me can't argue with any of that.

My big problem with this is that a conspiracy like that would by necessity require the involvement of many people in key positions in both government and the private sector. There's no way that could be kept secret in our 24/7 instant information social media world.

Millions, billions of dollars. That can keep people quiet. Or they can meet the fate of so many of Hillary Clintons friends.

Honestly, a cure may not be possible. But Chemotherapy and weed. There has been no evolution in therapy. I remember my friends Dad in The 70's undergoing that therapy. He ended up dying about 10 years later.
My Dad went through 2 bouts of cancer, with chemotherapy used multiple times. It was awful to witness. No weed. Knowing my dad he would have refused it. In his last days, morphine was used for pain. Nothing could make him eat. Sept. 1995, he died at 48 yrs old.

Years ago

The tobacco and cigarette companies knew that smoking caused cancer so the dudes hid that fact as they would have lost billions,

They also erected huge motorway posters that showed a great looking chick with a great looking male dude with smokes in their mouth,

The slogan at the top was : smoking is cool.

Some of you guys in your 50s will have seen these when we were in our 20s.

Make no mistake but sadly major companies and or corporations will see people die to reap their profits.

Great example.

Agreed.

If there is a conspiracy it's not a very good one. There have been major leaps in cancer treatment in the past few decades. The survival rate for colon cancer (which I was treated for in 2017) has doubled in the last 20 years.

There IS research being done in the area of a universal CURE for cancer, a single treatment that would cure any cancer. It is not believable that if such research were successful that it would be hidden away, if for no other reason than that the money those who develop such a treatment could make putting it to use would simply be astronomical. Much more than any pharma junta could afford to pay them to keep it secret.

My nephew was diagnosed with Lynch Syndrome in 2017. He unfortunately possessed certains genes in the right (or wrong) order from his parents that caused him to develop it. Lynch Syndrome is where the body just keeps replicating cancer cells, usually in the digestive tract, over and over. Like me, he has much of his intestinal tract removed, along with his gallbladder and part of his liver. This young man has been thru the ringer. He is now 31 years old now, newly married, and they just bought a house. He has been getting treatment at the Cleveland Clinic. I've had some treatment there too. Those people are truly angels right here on Earth. Unfortunately for him, his latest round of new tumors is inoperable. They can't take them out without killing him. He has been on steading rounds of heavy chemo and a new drug called Keytruda. So far, it has stopped the growth of his new tumors. They haven't grown in almost a year now. He does have issues with fatigue and some skin rashes, but the kid is hanging in there. I too have been skeptical of the whole way cancer is treated. I am even more skeptical of the many cancer "charities" out there (American Cancer Society for one). I can understand being angry after watching a loved one battle hard and end up losing their battle, but there really are some good things happening as far as helping people with this nasty scourge. Sorry for the long post, this subject just gets to me.

Oh, by the way, me and him did try the medicinal stuff together. We did have some laughs. He did better with it than me though.

Finally went and got my medical marijuana card this week.
If I had known how easy it was to get, I would have gotten it a couple of years ago.

Happy camper so far. It's nightime thing mostly for me. Slept awesome last night without having to have a few bourbons, main reason I finally got my card. Official reason is cancer survivor and ongoing skin cancer issues. Just gotta stay away from it in the day or I will eat the house.



Better quality, and cheaper than what's out there in the wild for me, another reason I went for it. Smoked my first ever legal joint a couple of days ago...on my front porch grinning, after over 55 years of on and off smoking and bad/almost bad legal related incidents, paranoia etc that came with being such a awful criminal

I walked in the Doc's office at 0800, walked out before 0900 with my approval linked to my Drivers license so I could stop at a dispensary on my way home!

I was truly a kid in a candy store when I got there.

Glad you are able to find some relief Nixer.

Is it as good as lemon haze?

Wonder how much thc is in there,

Would love to get the stuff off my doc but he keeps telling me to give it up and grow up LoL.

Then gives me stupid pharma tabs that go straight in the bin.

I take weed is not legal in Ireland ? What tabs does he give you ?
My brother in law, unfortunately abuses prescription drugs. He snorts his ADHD meds. He also has these massive bottles of pills, he told me they are pure THC. He is on Methadone, he has been for years, decades would be more accurate. He gets by on one days dose, for the week, he sells. or trades the other 6 days worth for other drugs. It is a very sad world he lives him. I love him like a brother, but he is a mess. we met in 1982 as 15 year olds. Little did we know I would marry his 7 yr old sister, 15 years later lol.

yeh its tough and heartbreaking to see some1 destroy themselves.

Most of my classmates are gone and i know exactly what killed them.

weed is illegal here but the cops are ok with it as long as you behave in a rational way,

iSome of my mates are troops in peace keeping forces in palestine.

The video footage they show me is pretty sad stuff.

Hope your bro in law somehow sees the light and finds a way out.

This world can be be a tough place...

In New Jersey it was legalized and dispensaries popped up all over. It's like walking in to a deli. Give me a quarter pound of this, a half pound of that. They'll even mail it to you, order online like door dash.

Or so I've heard.

Cannabis is better than pretty much any prescription drug for a multitude of issues from Anxiety to coping with the effects of chemo, and because there are so many varieties with varying ratios of THC to CBD that you can with some information and practice get the right one for what is ailing you. I find that edibles of both types are effective if you get good ones and its a different effect than from smoking which can make you buzzy and a lot of people don't like that. A friend of mine who is physically handicapped gave me some CBD Gummies that I swear made me feel better than I could have ever believed because with most (cbd) there is no sensation of anything. I felt great, upbeat, I wasn't stiff and sore which is most of the time and I'll definitely find out who makes them next time I see him. I also understand that there are medical research into THC that destroys or otherwise mitigates Cancer cells so there's a lot of things the General Public perceives about Marijuana (a made up word to sound Mexican) that isn't factual. But we cant have everyone growing their own Medicines and natural remedies now can we?

In Canada you are legally allowed to own 2 plants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvLKVcEACls

Lol


Dose of the mulchies woot,

I have had two good friends in the methadone "program", lost track with them many years ago. One I know for sure is dead, sadly I would bet the other one is also. The methadone clinic they went to sounded like a drugs are us flea market. Trading one addiction for another is NOT an effective long term drug treatment program, sadly, it's what the "professionals" use. You either wake up and quit, or you are gonna die from it eventually. I know.

Two months after I had been declared "cancer free" in 2015, I was a stone cold morphine addict. I had been using it more for feeling better vs the really crappy side effects of radiation and chemo, not really sure if there was any pain at that point. At my "peak" I was taking a 60mg 24 hour time release tab for breakfast. I would then put a 30 mg tab in my pocket to take as I finished that mornings treatments, I was driving myself after all. I would then go home, camp out on my sisters beautiful oceanfront porch and in a few months I read everything related to Tom Clancy, Arthur C Clark, and Asimnov and some other SciFi writers. Then before bed I would take another 30 mg morphine tab for a total of 120 mg per day! The last two weeks were tough. I would never have made it without the drugs. I discussed my situation with a good friend who had been in the same boat recently. My doc said just to wean my self off. My friend outlined a plan that worked for him. You have to want to quit, before you can even start to do it, not try, do it. I was just too weak physically and mentally

A couple of nights later, I took my evening 30 mg morphine ( I was down to 30 mg twice a day, no 60 mg time release) and looked at the bottle, thought to myself that my life revolved around this bottle of dope, and walked into the bathroom and flushed the bottle down the toilet! Oh, Oh...what have I done. I was really sick for almost two weeks. This was sometime in early October, 2015, after being declared cancer free. A month later I was finally clear of all the opiates and by January, 2016 I was done with the other stuff, Hydrocodone and Xanax, which I had substituted for the morphine. No rehab, I asked but nope. No hounding and lectures by psuedo professionals. I just quit by weaning myself as my strength was returning.

Marijuana is absolutely harmless compared to all the above mentioned dope. Smoking is not good for you. I tried a form of edible, a little sativa gummy. I felt ok, but it was a synthetic euphoria and I could tell. I'll stick with the organic stuff. Slept like a baby last night. Up at the crack of dawn feeling great. Life is pretty good for a poor old fart.

edit: I feel I downplayed the stress and physical symptoms of quiting morphine. When I flushed the last of it I knew that I had, inherited from my late mom, two fentanyl patches, good for three days each. I put the first one on for breakfast the next day. I ad prescriptions for 60 hydrocodone, 10 mg, per month. Along with 30 Xanax per month. The toughest part, after the bad physical symptoms for almost 14 days after the two patches, was the high anxiety, I mean BAD feelings, as I was weaning myself from the hydrocodone. Nasty stuff, the Xanax and pot helped a lot. Thankfully, I got clean. If I had taken one of my docs suggestion that I start with fentanyl, I probably wouldn't be typing this now. I researched fentanyl withdrawals and found a couple of support forums for people trying to quit fentanyl. Nightmares! Months long withdrawals with serious physical and mental symptoms. People being tied to beds for days/weeks at a time! Excruciating pain and mental issues. Quitting morphine was easy compared to that.The med industry likes fentanyl because you still have some kind of appetite and want to eat. They can keep you alive longer to keep collecting $$. I would have starved to death without my feeding tube during my morphine and chemo/radiation run.

haha

Wow Nixer, that is quite the ordeal you had to go through. Good for you for quitting. I can imagine, trying to get off morphine would be hell. It's a blessing when you are dealing with the pain of cancer, but a curse when it is time to quit.

Thanks WT, it wasn't much fun... BUT, like I said, after reading a few fentanyl forums/support groups, quitting fentanyl makes quitting morphine look like a fun way to spend a couple of weeks!

Still a couple of hours of late spring cleaning to do then I can REALLY relax.

Phoenix, do you know what thread you are in ?

Then again, it is an edibles thread.

Reminds me of a conversation on TeamSpeak during an IL2 online session between two Florida-based Texan stoner brothers a few years ago 'flying' a B26.

"Hey wow, bummer, we just crashed man'
"Well you were flying the #%&*$# plane man'
"Oh, I thought you were man"

Hours of unintentional hilarity with those two lovely blokes. I miss those Hyperlobby days.

You reminded me of the one instance about 10 years ago where I was playing online with someone and they actually fell asleep while on comms because they had too much to drink that day.

Sorry wango,

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