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#4616968 - 12/19/22 08:49 AM Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ?  
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While waiting for RAZBAM to release DCS F-15E....

Just wanted to share something which might be come as a definite FIX for ALL Jane's F-15 issues.
Having sad that, it covers all quirks we all witnessed in last 20 years as both Windows and PC hardware moved on.
Works on Windows 10 Pro 22H2 desktop (Ryzen 5700x, 64GB, 2080Super)

1. Install F-15 as usual, apply v1.17F patch, install nGlide v2.10 for 3DFX (optional)

2. Get the DxWrapper archive from https://github.com/elishacloud/dxwrapper/releases/tag/v1.0.6542.21

3. Extract dxwrapper.dll, dxwrapper.ini and also ddraw.dll and dsound.dll from 'stub' subfolder with the archive, all into game folder of F-15.

4. Edit dxwrapper.ini and change only values of follow parameters:
DDrawCompat = 1
SingleProcAffinity = 1
DDrawCompat31 = 1
FullScreen = 1

5. Save file and start F-15.

Menus should be responsive, menu text on briefings visible, no screen clipping, all animations work.
Game exits correctly, no CTDs so far.

Please report findings.
Thank you !

Update #1
KARKBOMB single mission crash few seconds after starting.
Fix was provided here by XRAY years ago, fixed exe helps a lot, decrease CTD which happen when using JUMP or time acceleration.
http://www.mediafire.com/?bye6o0hanvp451y


Update#2
DirectDraw wrapper in original post works on Windows 7,8x and 10, but crash on 11 (DDrawCompat v0.31).
To fix those brave enough to run their games on W11, unpack and overwrite ddraw.dll in F-15's folder.
https://github.com/narzoul/DDrawCompat/releases/download/v0.3.2/DDrawCompat-v0.3.2.zip

Few people here and on Vogons will continue with troubleshoot, expect no miracles or fast solutions, but as long as DCS F-15E is in the works, Janes F-15 will get some love.







Last edited by Njinsa; 01/08/23 01:04 PM. Reason: New insights.
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#4617706 - 12/29/22 05:21 AM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Nice, I'll try and report back.


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#4617925 - 01/01/23 01:18 AM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Tried this out. I then ran the exe, the F-15exe runs in processes but the window for the game never comes up or starts. I end up having to end the process manually.

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#4617934 - 01/01/23 05:47 AM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Njinsa, thanks for your clearly written method and steps. Worked perfectly for me. Win10 machine. Much appreciated.


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#4617965 - 01/01/23 08:24 PM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Eugene]  
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Originally Posted by Eugene
Worked perfectly for me. Win10 machine. Much appreciated.



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Last edited by Witchy Woman; 01/06/23 04:52 AM.
#4617977 - 01/01/23 10:53 PM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Thanks for your efforts to fix a very long ongoing issue with this sim. F-18 works fine, I just need to find a way to fix Janes f-15 on win 11.

Last edited by Witchy Woman; 01/06/23 04:51 AM.
#4618435 - 01/08/23 01:06 PM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Witchy Woman]  
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@Witchy Woman
There's a fix for W11 info mentioned in update OP.
Hope it helps.

TY

#4618491 - 01/09/23 07:27 PM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Just tested this, and it works perfectly. The only thing I noticed was getting back into menu screen after quitting/completing a mission (instant/single/campaign) the game either CTD or minimized itself showing the desktop. I corrected that by checking "Reduced color mode" and "Disable Full screen optimization". My rig is on Win10x64 22H2.

Will test more by playing campaign and will report back.

Last edited by Doggie; 01/09/23 07:28 PM.

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#4619736 - 02/02/23 02:05 AM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Originally Posted by Njinsa
@Witchy Woman
There's a fix for W11 info mentioned in update OP.
Hope it helps.

TY


Thanks!

#4621360 - 02/23/23 07:13 PM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Hi,

I installed Janes F15 and ran it. I found the menus were missing and the game accepted keyboard inputs.
I followed your steps above exactly and now I have the menus, sound, but the game does not accept keyboard commands now.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Gunfighter


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#4621797 - 03/01/23 06:17 PM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Gunfighter63]  
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Sorry, tried but can't reproduce the issue.
It may be some corner case which involve directx.
Keep an eye on update#2 as that piece likely needs updated version for Win10/11.

#4621991 - 03/04/23 04:01 AM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Hi Njinsa,

Tried update #2 but that didn't work


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#4621992 - 03/04/23 04:52 AM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Hi Njinsa,

Re-installed it again, got it working. Thanks


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#4623272 - 03/21/23 05:57 PM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Thankyou Njinsa, your advise worked wonderfully for me F15 and also F18.




Win10 F15 and F18 alternate method to dxwnd launcher


-------------------------- web ref begin Njinsa SimHQ

Just wanted to share something which might be come as a definite FIX for ALL Jane's F-15 issues.
Having sad that, it covers all quirks we all witnessed in last 20 years as both Windows and PC hardware moved on.
Works on Windows 10 Pro 22H2 desktop (Ryzen 5700x, 64GB, 2080Super)

1. Install F-15 as usual, apply v1.17F patch, install nGlide v2.10 for 3DFX (optional)

2. Get the DxWrapper archive from https://github.com/elishacloud/dxwrapper/releases/tag/v1.0.6542.21

3. Extract dxwrapper.dll, dxwrapper.ini and also ddraw.dll and dsound.dll from 'stub' subfolder with the archive, all into game folder of F-15.

4. Edit dxwrapper.ini and change only values of follow parameters:
DDrawCompat = 1
SingleProcAffinity = 1
DDrawCompat31 = 1
FullScreen = 1

5. Save file and start F-15.

Menus should be responsive, menu text on briefings visible, no screen clipping, all animations work.
Game exits correctly, no CTDs so far.

---------------------------------------- web ref end

Extra F15 important stuff
------------------------------
If you have removed movies you may put them back and they will not cause problems.
Added all movies back in Movies folder, animations play in single mission and other places like airframe and weapons. Not very important but if you want authentic....

****** This is key: Set win98 compat - fixes jumping out of program each time you select anything (looks just like alt-tab)

Tested accel function- works ok, fix not needed.
Music stays on and no choppy voice on mission start (tower talk)


**** Conclusion

This works well and is simpler than any dxwnd launcher fix, which I had been using.


************** FA18 *****************
So I figured why not try this method for Janes FA18 which has been problematic on Win10

I got FA18 going on amazing well on Win10 just like it works on Win7 with TSHv3 one click

1.
Do fresh install from ISO to C:\F18
Patch it- patch is on disk 2
Do TSH (v3) one click installer which will put files in C:\Program Files\Jane's Combat Simulations\FA-18 and thats not where you want them.
Copy all the files into C:\F18 and overwrite all.

****** This is key: Set F18.EXE to win98 compat - fixes various CTDs
****** This is key: Use TshV3manager.exe and set resolution to desktop res, in my case 1920x1080, this fixes various CTDs
F18 in game options program res is set to 1024x768, I dont know how important this is.


****** NOTE: 2 - 5 are the same steps as F15 above

2. Get the DxWrapper archive from https://github.com/elishacloud/dxwrapper/releases/tag/v1.0.6542.21
(game res causes CTDs and instability)

3. Extract dxwrapper.dll, dxwrapper.ini and also ddraw.dll and dsound.dll from 'stub' subfolder with the archive, all into game folder of C:\F18

4. Edit dxwrapper.ini and change only values of follow parameters:
DDrawCompat = 1
SingleProcAffinity = 1
DDrawCompat31 = 1
FullScreen = 1

5. Save file

6. Run F18



*********** Conclusion
Works just like TSHv3 does in Win7, all functions, all menus, all training voices. instant mission.
So this new method really works and not just for the two Janes sims above, I am pleased.

#4623301 - 03/22/23 09:04 AM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Njinsa, my last reply was incomplete so here are my system specs: See attachments please.

Attached Files Mig_4.pngmig_3.pngmig_1.pngMig_2.png
#4623342 - 03/22/23 08:35 PM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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Glad this works for you too.
Dxwrapper is solution for a lot of games created in 1997-2000 era with Windows 98 being mainstream OS.
Some games will work via DXWND, but some like JF-15 are just to much to crack even for very talented guys like GHO, the author of DXWND.

#4642362 - 02/10/24 11:06 AM Re: Finally FIX for Janes F-15 ? [Re: Njinsa]  
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I just found this thread but I have some issues I followed your install procedure and Update 2 (Yeah I'm on windows 11) and everything works fine until I click fly then I CTD.

Edit: Somehow the game does not like my "Primary Display driver" but I installed nGlide and choosed 3DFX and that seems to have fixed my problem.

Last edited by Fenix; 02/10/24 12:29 PM.

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