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#4615198 - 11/30/22 03:41 AM And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals  
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https://www.npr.org/2022/11/28/1139...w-enforcement-robots-to-use-lethal-force

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#4615199 - 11/30/22 04:10 AM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: Haggart]  
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San Francisco getting tough on crime? Now THAT is the science fiction here!


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#4615209 - 11/30/22 07:48 AM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: Haggart]  
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Eventually, fully authorized "independent thinking" Deadly Robot Police will come to pass. It will be the "norm". One could argue its way too soon to start today.

However, an unthinking Deadly Robot under full human control is merely an extension of the human operator. So, that could work -- and save lives on both sides of the fight.


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#4615211 - 11/30/22 07:58 AM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: Haggart]  
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I'll buy that for a dollar. biggrin

#4615254 - 11/30/22 05:12 PM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: Haggart]  
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#4615270 - 11/30/22 06:02 PM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: BUFF]  
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Originally Posted by BUFF


Call the paramedics! They can't do much for that poor man!

#4615275 - 11/30/22 06:07 PM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Originally Posted by BUFF


Call the paramedics! They can't do much for that poor man!


That's just Paul Verhoeven's natural gift of portraying the absurd on film.


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#4615277 - 11/30/22 06:15 PM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: Haggart]  
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Any notions people have of robots patrolling the street and dispensing justice should be properly dispelled.

All this is is a response to Cali's new laws, where permission for this sort of thing must be approved by... someone who probably knows nothing about it. But this was just granting permission for the robots the police already have to use deadly force in extreme circumstances, such as when they used a robot to blow up the Dallas sniper a few years ago. Until now, California PDs could not do the same, now they can. Not a big deal really. It's a way to end sticky situations without putting officers in the line of fire.


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#4615278 - 11/30/22 06:16 PM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Originally Posted by BUFF


Call the paramedics! They can't do much for that poor man!


That's just Paul Verhoeven's natural gift of portraying the absurd on film.

I was able to guess the scene from the two replies...


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#4615279 - 11/30/22 06:19 PM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: Haggart]  
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As Allen and DBond say, this is more the authorization to use a new weapon than any real robotic revolution. It's all still controlled by humans, so no robot armies will be marching across the landscape, Terminator style.


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#4615280 - 11/30/22 06:22 PM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: Arthonon]  
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Originally Posted by Arthonon
As Allen and DBond say, this is more the authorization to use a new weapon than any real robotic revolution. It's all still controlled by humans, so no robot armies will be marching across the landscape, Terminator style.



I think you just rained on Haggart's parade. biggrin


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#4615306 - 11/30/22 09:20 PM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: Haggart]  
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Gee, I had my pitchfork already to go too. Such a buzzkill.


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#4615343 - 12/01/22 03:23 AM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: Haggart]  
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The more robotic weapons platforms deployed, the more our future AI overlords like it.


#4615352 - 12/01/22 05:39 AM Re: And So It Begins: SF to Unleash Killer Robots on Criminals [Re: Haggart]  
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Corporations & the military they build weapons for are a big part of the forces advancing robots for defensive and offensive purposes so the ground work has already be prepared and autonomous machines using progressively more complex AI platforms are not far from taking over more human tasks including some in law enforcement .


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