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#4608677 - 09/14/22 10:22 PM Is EAW Beginner Friendly?  
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Looking for something in the European Theater. I have IL-1946 and enjoying it but stuck still on “easy” mode. My father flew in European Theater and I have always been interested in it.


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#4608693 - 09/15/22 08:08 AM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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EAW v1.2 is about the easiest as it comes in that there aren't much actions required to get airborne and start fighting. After starting your plane you go full throttle and when you achieve an appropiate speed you lightly pull back on your joystick and off you go. You retract gear and with a skip function you can immediately be thrown into the battle. However as all flightsims you should at first not do extreme stick input but learn the feel of a certain plane. I would first fly around homebase a little and learn the use of flaps, how the plane behaves without an engine, how to get out of stalls, etc. Obviously some help from experienced pilots will get you fighting a lot faster. Mapping controls is very usefull but requires some insight on which ones you use most but you're free to map everything to your liking. Try landing a few times, if you slowly descend it will almost land itself, just a slight pull on the stick on touch down and you should live to fight another day.

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#4608694 - 09/15/22 08:10 AM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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It has different modes of easiness. The lowest allows you to fly in an indestructable plane with no limit to ammunition, no cockpit, padlocking.
One of the advantages vs the IL2 series is the ability to respawn which can be set to on or off. If it is on and you are killed you can re-spawn in another plane if there is one available.

There is a UAW160 basic installation here if you want to try it:

UAW160 Test installation

It has my "eaw.ini" file in it which suits my Logitech Extreme 3D PRO joystick

The downloaded installer is a 7-Zip self extractor. Windows and some anti-virus programs may find it suspicious, but I will guarantee that it is clean.

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#4608749 - 09/15/22 07:48 PM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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Yes it is if you select easy

in Game setup (configure game screen) > Difficulty, Flight , Easy

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MrJelly:
once again you keep invading the regular EAW forum (EAW 1 - 1.28 series) with your UAW160 propaganda - why don't you post those in your subforum EAW 1.6+

UAW 160 is not EAW it UAW by your own device!

#4608766 - 09/15/22 10:22 PM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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Where can you buy it? I see it on Steam and GOG. Which has the version 1.2? If later I want to go to V1.6 is that just a series of patches and if so, where do I get them?

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#4608770 - 09/15/22 11:44 PM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: FsFOOT]  
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Originally Posted by FsFOOT

MrJelly:
once again you keep invading the regular EAW forum (EAW 1 - 1.28 series) with your UAW160 propaganda - why don't you post those in your subforum EAW 1.6+

UAW 160 is not EAW it UAW by your own device!



FsFoot...there's nothing wrong with Mr.Jelly making a new user aware of a modification that is available that we have a sub-forum for. He was very clear about it being a modification.

Tone it down please.


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#4608775 - 09/16/22 06:02 AM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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Thanks Force10.
Snow46 started this thread, and as there is a freely available test version of UAW160 I posted a link in my response to his initial post. The download installs a stand-alone version with just the ETO theatre and the same aircraft as EAW 1.2 wink

My understanding is that the two sub-forums were created to avoid arguments between VBH and the code group. We never post in the EAWPro sub-forum and VBH cannot post in ours. The arrangement did not stop VBH from starting the "1-28e-we-show-no-bandits-in-your-area" in the main forum, even though it relates to a code-group release wink

Originally Posted by Snow46
Where can you buy it? I see it on Steam and GOG. Which has the version 1.2? If later I want to go to V1.6 is that just a series of patches and if so, where do I get them?


Try the free version first using the link I posted in my first reply. It is not a series of patches.

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#4608937 - 09/17/22 08:26 PM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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I did buy and download the version from GOG and patched it. The controls seem simple however I cant seem to get my Thrustmaster T16000M FCS to work on the game. I have changed the controls a number of times to identify control by the FCS but nothing changes. Is there something else I need to load, I did look at the preloaded FCS configurations and did not see one for EAW. Do I need a different flight stick? Maybe the T16000 is too advanced??? My intent was to try the game at the basic level and once I understood it, take a close look at the 1.6 version for comparison. But without a working fcs, not sure what to do. Can you recommend a joystick/flight control stick that I should be usiing?


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#4608954 - 09/18/22 08:25 AM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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I use a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. It has a twist handle rudder, but in UAW160 I can use it with my Saitek rudder pedals if I want to. This cannot be done with 1.2 pr 1.28.
I'm getting lazy and the pedals are unplugged at the moment.

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My intent was to try the game at the basic level and once I understood it, take a close look at the 1.6 version for comparison

There is little difference between 1.2 and the basic 160 in terms of the complexity of game-play.
The full 160 installation gives you a choice of eaw exes, theatres and plane-sets. You make your choices using file-manager programs which come with the installation.

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After that it is like running the basic 160 wink


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#4608957 - 09/18/22 11:03 AM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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Hey Snow46. You may be having the same issue with a file Jel mentions renaming or deleting here.
https://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4608903/re-problems-getting-eaw-installed#Post4608903

#4608975 - 09/18/22 05:32 PM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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The hall effect stick itself should not pose any problems, one of the Launchpad's players was very successful with it, but that was the standalone joystick. In fact he was so successful that he managed to pull the stick out of it's base, how's that for damage realism! Maybe you can try just the stick without other peripherals in USB port 1 and make sure to select it as your primary gaming device. The HOTAS version has got 2 additional controllers which v1.2 can not handle unless these are daisy chained to the stick and only one port is used. The rest should then depend on proper mapping of the additional devices.

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#4608979 - 09/18/22 06:34 PM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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With the dinput.dll file installed I do have guns working on the T16000 M FCS but cannot control the aircraft or adjust the throttle. I did use the settings for control=joystick, throttle=throttle. So I renamed the dinput.dll file and then nothing worked on the joystick. Not sure what the next move will be, I am not using anything but the basic FCS. The T16000M FCS does work on IL-1946 and WOTR. I am headed for Paris, Normandy, coast of France, and Spain in two days and will be gone from the PC for 17 days. I will see if Amazon carries the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro and if so will order one so it is here when I get back. Do you know if I need to change any of the ini or dll files to use it?


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https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-3D-Pro-Joystick-Windows/dp/B00009OY9U/ref=sr_1_1?crid=HJJBI6YP5Z37&keywords= Logitech +3d+pro&qid=1663526751&s=amazon-devices&sprefix=logitec+3d+pro%2Camazon-devices%2C120&sr=1-1-catcorr

It's pnp
Just type USB controllers in the search box and calibrate it.



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#4608995 - 09/19/22 01:22 AM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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Sorry, not sure what all that means and how to use it.


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#4609008 - 09/19/22 08:52 AM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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have you gone through the setup process of assigning keys in the game? You have to tell the game which keys you want to use for which action and setup is not automatic. You can set it up by selecting CONFIGURE GAME in the opening screen and select joystick for main flight control. Next asign your stick buttons for firing weapons and dropping bombs and acquaint yourself with the choices you have. The setup process will ask you to swap controls when you already have it selected elsewhere. The game requires to see the stick in the first game slot in the configuring of Window's gaming devices

Russ posted a URL to Amazon, you can copy/paste it into the adress bar in your browser to find the Logitech joystick.and a calibration screen. The calibration screen is for properly setting the stick's center and movement.

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#4609027 - 09/19/22 02:46 PM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: Snow46]  
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I am using a Thrustmaster T16000M FCS and did go o the configuration menu and selected joystick for control. Did not work. I did some researching and found a list of joysticks/FCS and throttles/pedals that EAW works well with. The Thrustmaster was not on the list. I did order the extreme 3D Pro from Amazon and it should arrive around the 23rd of September.

When I open the windows 10 devices, the flight stick is the last one on the list. Not sure how to move it to the first position.

I will copy the url on calibration of the “new” joystick, thanks. I may be asking more stupid questions when I get back. It is interesting to note that the Thrustmaster works ok on IL-1946 and WOTR.

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I had a thrust master T1600M and it never worked nice in EAW.Worked fairly good without the throttle quadrant.I went to a Logitech 3d pro and never an issue.I just don't use the Logitec programming software it's crap and not needed


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#4609050 - 09/19/22 04:57 PM Re: Is EAW Beginner Friendly? [Re: VonBeerhofen]  
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Unfortunately I have Windows 10 and this doesnt seem to help. Joystick is the last item on the list.
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While the thrustmaster is being seen by the computer, because the guns do fire from the joystick, it doesnt control the action of the aircraft. I have saved the data on how to calibrate the different joystick and will try that when I can.

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An edited copy of some info re- mixing a USB joystick and USB rudder pedals. Maybe it could be adapted smile

Note: It is not possible to set a combination of rudder pedals and a joystick in EAW1.2 the FXExe, EAWPro, or the GoG/Steam release.

Screen-dumps of earlier posts relating to the code-group releases:

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