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#4599181 - 05/09/22 05:47 PM Help required learning Falcon BMS  
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Hello everyone!

I am new to Falcon 4.0 and this is my first message. I purchased and installed Falcon 4.0 from Steam five days ago in order to take advantage of its modern update of the Benchmark Sims, of which I downloaded and installed the current version 4.36. I believe I have all the original manuals, especially the Dash-1, Main Checklist and BMS Training. I started the "Ramp" mission three days ago and I struggled to get to communications - and here I am stranded: I absolutely cannot understand how to communicate with the control tower and everything else - I am in total confusion between DTC, COMM1 & 2, UHF, VHF, frequencies (I see that I can only set one, but in the briefing there are many ...), etc.
I managed to start the engine, I can get to the runway and take off, but if I can't communicate with anyone I don't know what I'm doing ...
Please, simple help! I would hate to give up on this beautiful simulator with its engaging dynamic campaign and one that reminds me of the much fun I had thirty years ago with its venerable predecessor: Falcon 3.0. Thanks!

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To set your tower comms, use the DTC. On the lower right of the planning map screen is the DTC button, looks like a USB stick I think. In the comms section find an unused preset channel and click set tower and save. Be sure you're tuned to that channel when you enter the jet and you should get clearance and chocks removal.

Let's say you put your base on channel 18. If not already tuned to it in the jet, on the ICP hit

Comms 1
1
8
Enter

That should get you talking with the tower.

This assumes it all still works the same.


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#4599208 - 05/09/22 09:36 PM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Greybeard]  
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D is on the ball

But make sure you have your data cartridge setup the right way.

4.36 has some new atc stuff so im not fully up on it yet and still trying to get a grasp on it myself...

#4599218 - 05/09/22 10:56 PM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: DBond]  
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Originally Posted by DBond
To set your tower comms, use the DTC. On the lower right of the planning map screen is the DTC button, looks like a USB stick I think. In the comms section find an unused preset channel and click set tower and save. Be sure you're tuned to that channel when you enter the jet and you should get clearance and chocks removal.

Let's say you put your base on channel 18. If not already tuned to it in the jet, on the ICP hit

Comms 1
1
8
Enter

That should get you talking with the tower.

This assumes it all still works the same.


Thank you so much! But I've some questions (maybe silly, pardon me). I tried to condense them in following figure:

[Linked Image]

Finally, I would like to know what is ICP... (sorry)

#4599321 - 05/11/22 06:55 AM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Greybeard]  
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It worked! And it's wonderful to be able to communicate with the tower, even if I still don't understand how I did it! Because the suggestion you gave me can't always make it work; above all, I cannot get ALL the radio frequencies pre-set in the DTC (which I managed to obtain only once, in the various attempts I have made), without having to enter them manually.
It remains to be figured out (for this short training mission) how to communicate for the second part of the flight, because I can't get any help landing. I did the latter on sight, all the times damaging the plane and with a start of fire (perhaps because it was too steep?), Except the last one, which I did in the external view. I notice that in communicating the approach frequency, the tower skips the first digit (2). Ad maiora!

#4599336 - 05/11/22 01:41 PM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Greybeard]  
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OK well that's progress. Sorry, this forum's been dead and I'm not used to checking here these days.

I haven't flown Falcon in a long time, to my eternal disgrace. Not up to date with the latest.

But I will say you don't need to punch in every VHF on the map. Just your home base, and I usually set a divert field somewhere along the return leg. Actually the way I started to do it was just to pre-set several common bases, say Kimpo, Seoul, Kangnung and Choongwon and leave them there for all missions. This way I always had one ready to go regardless of where I wanted to set down. But there's no need to fill all the presets I don't think,

It's great you're getting in to it and I'll help if I can, but my long layoff makes my assistance questionable at best.

I want to add you have a strong screenshot game, nicely done and that will help us help you I think.


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#4599525 - 05/13/22 11:46 AM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Greybeard]  
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Hi Greybeard I too am a noob regarding Falcon BMS 4.36 ..there’s a Facebook page that I recently joined that has given me some excellent advice.

I’ve downloaded the manuals from the docs folder to my iPad so that I can pause/freeze the sim at any time and look at the manuals for any advice I need. Also I was told to watch YouTube vids to learn ..the popular advice given was to join a virtual squadron to learn baby steps with a more experienced flyer.

I’ve spent a few hours now over the last week and I can cold start..contact ATC, use steer points etc and take off and land quite proficiently. I’m going to spend some time learning about the data cartridge and how it works before I move onto ILS landings and then A-A and A-G operations. Little steps at a time is what I’ve been told..if there’s any experienced flyers on here who has any further recommendations then I’m always willing to accept advice..cheers all have a pleasant day.
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Thanks DBond and Adger,
actually learning this simulator is very challenging. I have been overwhelmed by the amount of manuals and cannot read them all. I found the following video very useful, it still took me hours to go through its step-by-step exam, but it allowed me to get ready for take-off without any alarms on board! I don't think it will be possible for me to take lessons online, but I hope that with other Youtube videos I will be able to reach what my goal is: the dynamic campaign, described as engaging and with excellent artificial intelligence.


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Thanks for the post Greybeard I’ll definitely have a look at that video, yeah I’ll also possibly struggle to go online with a training instructor, work and the time difference in other countries make it difficult.

It’s a in-depth simulation I’m just hoping to learn one step at a time and hope I don’t forget things along the way biggrin ..very best of luck going forwards I certainly know from my end that I’ve got to be patient in learning BMS..I usually fly less complex sims like Wings over Flanders fields,
IL1946 with B.A.T etc so this is a completely new ball game. Enjoy pal

Regards Adger

Edit: Cheers Dbond for chipping in with your help pal.


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#4599574 - 05/13/22 11:09 PM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Adger]  
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Originally Posted by Adger
... yeah I’ll also possibly struggle to go online with a training instructor, work and the time difference in other countries make it difficult.

Not only, also the language barrier.

Quote
IL1946 ...

I spent ten years playing with that; a great game.

My first sensations with this Falcon 4.0 BMS are... compelling, electrifying. Excellent level of artificial intelligence that can already be noticed from the contacts with the control tower during taxiing.

Enjoy you too, mate!

#4599591 - 05/14/22 10:49 AM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Greybeard]  
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I thought someone might find the simplified checklist I worked out at the end of this ramp start session useful.

(I took for granted the knowledge of some acronyms like HUD, ECM, IFF. The following list skips the controls that I have deemed cosmetic or eye-candy.)
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1. MAIN PWR switch		BATT
 2. Canopy			Closed – locked (spider) - no light
 3. ENGINE FEED knob		NORM
 4. AIR SOURCE knob		NORM
 5. Aircraft Lights		As SOP [Standard Operating Procedure] (AC ON – Wing/fus: ON – FLASH) [MASTER to NORM]
 6. COM1 & COM2 Vol knob	Set both CW (turns radio ON) [UHF knob to BOTH]
 7. Set ON the INTERCOM and ILS on AUDIO 2 panel
 8. MAIN PWR Switch		MAIN PWR
 9. JFS				START 2 [Jet Fuel Starter]
10. THROTTLE			Advance to IDLE at 25% RPM minimum [SEC - Secondary (SEC) engine control - caution light: check OFF around 20% RPM - wait for the RPM to go up to about 72% and stabilize]
11. AVIONICS POWER Panel
 a. MMC (FCC) switch: 		ON [Modular Mission Computer (old FCC)]
 b. ST STA (SMS) switch: 	ON [Store Stations (old SMS)]
 c. MFD switch: 		ON [Multi-Function Displays]
 d. UFC switch: 		ON [Up Front Controls: Data Entry Display (DED) and a keyboard known as the Integrated Control Panel (ICP).]
 e. DL switch: 			ON [Data Link]
 f. EGI [Embedded GPS/INS]: 	Select ALIGN NORM after display visible on the DED
 c. ECM switch: 		Set as required (OPR)
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12. [HMCS:			take the knob all the way forward (INC)]<--- Helmet Mounted Cueing System: only if required
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13. Depress the lower right POWER button on the TWA (THREAT WARNING AUX), located on the left auxiliary console and the SYSTEM POWER green light illuminates.
14. Chaff & Flares CMDs:	
 a. MWS				ON [Missile Warning System]
 b. JMR				ON [JaMmeR]
 c. RWR				ON [Radar Warning Receiver]
 d. 01				ON
 e. 02				ON
 f. CH				ON [CHaff]
 g. FL				ON [FLares]
 h. MODE			MAN
15. HANDOFF button (left RWR)	press that once
16. HUD Panel: 			As desired
				Set HUD SYM WHEEL ON
17. SNSR PWR panel: 
 a. LEFT HDPT switch: 		As required 
 b. RIGHT HDPT switch: 		As required 
 c. FCR switch: 		FCR (initiates FCR PO BIT) [Fire Control Radar - Power ON Built-In Test]
 d. RDR ALT switch 		STBY
18. SEAT 			Adjust
19. DTC: 			Load [Data Transfer Cartridge - on the right MFD hit DTE and then hit LOAD] (always load the DTC prior to setting up the UFC subpages)
20. IFF PANEL 			IFF MASTER: 	NORM
				CNI (C&I) knob: UFC [Communication, Navigation and Identification]
21. Request EPU PIN removal from the Ground ATC menu
22. FLCS panel: 		FLCS reset (FLCS light & PFD off) [FLight Control System]
23. UFC radio: 			Set COM1 & COM2 frequency as briefed. [COM1 on 2 and ENTER]
				ATIS [Automated Terminal Information Service]: Listen to departure airbase VHF ATIS freq
24. Hit "T" on your keyboard until we see QNH and then press "1". Listen at QNH and set it on your altimeter by left bottom knob.
25. Check on FLT CONTROL panel on the left side that RUN test has terminated and go on the left hand MFD where we hit TEST and then CLEAR.
26. When RDY is flashing on the DED (Data Entry Display) set EGI on NAV on the AVIONICS POWER panel.
27. Turn ON oxygen regulator.
28. Arm seat.
29. Turn ON TAXI LIGHTS.
30. ANTI-COLL on C.
31. SHIFT+key immediately to its left to get nose-wheel steering.
32. Request chocks removal from the Ground ATC menu.

#4599599 - 05/14/22 01:33 PM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Adger]  
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Originally Posted by Adger

Cheers Dbond for chipping in with your help pal.


Don't mention it. Happy to have some Falcon talk around here, even if I'm only able to help in a cursory way because I'm out of the loop.

It's the best combat sim ever and well worth the time. Happy to see you guys giving it a go. Good hunting.


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#4599611 - 05/14/22 08:24 PM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Greybeard]  
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Cheers Greybeard for the checklist I’ll definitely try it out.

@DBond ..no plans atm of getting back into BMS 4.36 pal? Or is your time spent flying other titles. Cheers


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#4599612 - 05/14/22 08:48 PM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Greybeard]  
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Never say never right? I recently went back and read all of the AARs we were putting up a few years ago here for our SimHQ online campaigns and I must admit it did trip that trigger.

I'm in to sim racing these days, but you never know smile

Still have a couple Cougars and bought a set of Crosswinds, so yeah, I could see it. If you guys keep talking about it I may not resist!


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#4599759 - 05/18/22 05:49 AM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Greybeard]  
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I am going through the reading of the second training lesson and I want to say that the greatest difficulty I encounter (in this chapter as in the previous one) is the excessive number of acronyms: it is already difficult to understand the subject with things called as they are, but if then you have to remember every time what this or that acronym stands for, the matter becomes frustrating! But so be it! I think that scolding Americans for using too many acronyms would be like scolding kangaroos for jumping, which is perfectly useless! Personally I found the list at the following link of some help:

https://www.f-16.net/glossary.html

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IKR, RTFM. YMMV.

But seriously, acronyms are key to sounding like a fighter pilot smile

To project the right image you need the right shades, all the acronyms and be able to use both hands to show the listener the relative positions and attitudes of the aircraft in the incident you are describing.


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Originally Posted by DBond
But seriously, acronyms are key to sounding like a fighter pilot smile

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Sorry, a silly question: manual says "go to buster (full MIL power)"... But I wonder how? confused The only way I've right now is go to external view and watch for AB lighting up or not... frown Manuals also instruct how to set AB detent (green line), but I've no physical detents on my throttle, so I can't "feel" the limit! Is there any KB command (like Alt+I for idle) also for AB detent?

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I have detents on one of my throttles, and took them out in the other one. I don't know what the keyboard commands are for it, and it depends on which key file you're using. I want to say "0" is mil but that's just a guess.

You can make an edit to display engine RPM percentage in the HUD. I use this to judge where the throttle position is. I think it transitions from mil to 'burner around 103%

It can be seen in this shot lower left in the HUD

[Linked Image]


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#4599870 - 05/19/22 01:54 PM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: DBond]  
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Originally Posted by DBond
You can make an edit to display engine RPM percentage in the HUD.


Great! But how to edit HUD?

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Is it this?

set g_bNoRPMOnHud 1 in the bms.cfg file

Or make it 0 if it is already at 1. I can't recall.

Good hunting


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Originally Posted by DBond
set g_bNoRPMOnHud 1 in the bms.cfg file


It works! Thank you very much!

[Linked Image]

I don't know why can't read the acronym "RPM" before percentage, like in your screenshot. But nevermind, I get AB lighting up at 97% RPM (and approximately 70% of my throttle run). So, to get full military power I think I should stop at 95-96%.

Thanks again.

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Great, glad it works. The difference is probably because my screenshot is from 4.33 and likely it's been changed since then?


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#4599964 - 05/20/22 10:42 PM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Greybeard]  
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Hi again,

eventually completed also Mission 2 of the training. I thought to attach an evolution of my previous list, continued as an abstract of Training Manual, to speed up advising during mission itself. It includes some internal link to get acronym meaning. Hope this helps someone learning like me.

Cheers

Edit: please find my checklist attached to following message.

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First landing successfully completed (after a few failed attempts).
Amazing realism of the AI: landed on the third attempt without radio contact with the control tower (whose dialogue was distracting me from the physical maneuver), shortly after the touch-down the tower told me (more or less) "next time contact us to land! "). eek
Accustomed to the useless chatter of IL-2 1946, where the ATC practically authorizes everyone to land, and you risk colliding on the runway, this sounds like science fiction to me! Good developers (all), really good! notworthy

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Great ATC in BMS.

If you need to grease it right down call autonomous. Otherwise follow the instructions so the tower doesn't scold you as naughty.


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Great stuff guys..Steve’s videos have helped me a lot



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Updated my lean checklist up to the engine shutdown. Please find it attached.

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I got stuck at in-flight refueling.

I've tried many times, but I always go into crisis when I'm in pre-contact position (or close to it), because my plane starts to porpoise, preventing me from making contact with the boom.

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There is one thing that drives me crazy: I would just like to try the cannon and hear what it sounds like in the simulator. I go into Instant Action, pull the trigger and nothing happens! I have the Master Arm switch on ARM, my setup tells me that the trigger on my good ol' T. Flight HOTAS X commands the Second Trigger Detent ... What else do I need to do to fire?

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Try dogfight mode?

Dogfight mode will change your symbology and bring up the LCOS/EEGS funnel. Dogfight mode in the later F-16 marks is great (not in Block 30/32), especially if you turn on the HMCS and use head-tracking. 9X Sidewinders are even better as you can use your eyes to lock your heaters off-boresight.

Betty says Lock!

On my Cougar there's a Dogfight Switch and I recommend putting this on your stick or throttle.

HMCS switch can be found right about here...

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Originally Posted by DBond
On my Cougar there's a Dogfight Switch...


The point is, I don't have a Cougar ... And I have no idea how to configure a button on my joystick to do the same thing ...

The manual (BMS - Training.pdf) says in point "19.1 The Gun":
"default settings for DOGFIGHT are: FCR / ACM (radar off) on the left MFD, SMS on the right MFD with SRM (short range missile) or HOB (high off-boresight) active (if carried) and the gun ready for use .
The gun can also be selected from the A-A SMS page by selecting OSB 1 to toggle between missiles and the gun.
"

But I can't find these commands on my MFDs.

The manual tells me that for the cannon I should get this screen:
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but the best I can get is this:
[Linked Image]

with which, however, the cannon does not fire! nope

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Originally Posted by Greybeard


The point is, I don't have a Cougar ...


We won't hold that against you smile

Yeah, the Cougar has a switch, but any switch can be made to emulate it.

Anyway, I think it used to be that Dogfight mode could be entered by hitting D. C is cancel and M is MRM mode. This will depend on your key file, but I suspect it hasn't changed?



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Dogfight mode could be entered by hitting D. C is cancel and M is MRM mode.


WORKS!!!

But they couldn't just write that in the manual! As you wrote! Instead, I read dozens of pages finding only that incomprehensible explanation I mentioned above! mad

Thank you so much! notworthy

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Superb mate. And appreciate you getting back to me to let me know if my advice is working. It's been years since I've flown Falcon and it's amazing how it sticks with you, ya know? It's in the blood smile


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Originally Posted by DBond
It's in the blood smile


I know what you mean.

It remains for me to pass the in-flight refueling test. Is there a simple method for that too? Is it essential to carry out a campaign?

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No, it's not needed. Over the years I've flown many campaigns and have never aerial refueled even once. I've done so in training, but not in a campaign. I mean if you're flying out of Aviano in the Balkans in Balance of Power, then yeah, maybe.

There are practical reasons to use it, and roleplaying/realism arguments as well. But I don't find it necessary.

There's another option in BMS, hotpit refueling. In 4.33 anyway, all you needed to do was be on the tarmac at a blue base. There are a few more steps of course to take on fuel. But it's there. In one of our online campaigns in the Balkans I gave it a go. It allowed me to fly a fairly long mission with nothing but slicks and air to air missiles. Normally I'd take bags on a hop like this. Without the tanks the jet really clips along if the loadout is slippery, like it is with Mark 84s. I set a steerpoint at a newly acquired base near the front, landed there on the trip home to take on fuel to then took off again and flew home.

A mini AAR of the mission

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Originally Posted by DBond
No, it's not needed.


Great! biggrin

Honestly, I can't understand how real pilots perform that: aircraft change speed also slightly climbing or diving, so it looks to me impossible to stay for a time at same identical speed with the tanker (given the very limited excursion in lenght of the boom, and not to mention turbulence...). It's not like to flank a car on a highway. I remember me performing in-flight refueling in Super EF2000, but there, first of all, there was the probe/drogue system, more flexible, I think, about relative distance, then an aid consisting in plane taken in control by autopilot as soon as the contact happened. This notwithstanding, I recall my rage when I was unable to make contact before tanker started a turn, forcing me to restart approach.

I thank you very much, you opened me new worlds. I hope to have the force and constance to arrive playing offline campaigns. I think this simulator is superb.

Cheers!

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Originally Posted by Greybeard


I thank you very much, you opened me new worlds.


Just wait until you play a campaign! I love all the stuff about the jet, and weapons, systems and avionics and all that. But the campaign is the business.

If we shift discussion at some point from the jet to the campaign then I can help smile


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But the campaign is the business.


I can't wait to do a campaign, but I see that everything is very complex here, and I had thought about going through all the training missions. But if you tell me which are the essential ones, maybe I only do those, postponing the others until the real need arises.

Edit:
There is another problem: my system has already crashed twice with MISSION 6: ILS IN BAD WEATHER.
I feel that my PC is in trouble with this simulator, which does not happen with the others (of the IL-2 series: '46, COD, BOS).
I enclose my computer specs and WhoCrashed analysis, as well as my graphic settings.
What do you advise me to do?
Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Greybeard

What do you advise me to do?


If you're asking me, I advise you to just put that aside if it's causing problems. Out of sight, out of mind haha.

I wouldn't know how to fix it.

The essential campaign skills question is an interesting one, and it's only my view. Ask the next Falcon pilot and he'd have a different outlook I'm sure. But I like the question so I'll take a stab at it from my point of view. You're asking about which training TEs to fly, but I can't approach it from there. So I'll put it this way

-- Base Ops. You need to be able to talk to the tower, remove chocks, taxi competently, find departure ends, set up the cockpit and all the stuff around the base. Of course you can opt to start on the runway, or from a cold jet. But I always choose taxi. There's an edit you can make to add time from the time you exit the pie screen until your take off time. It gives you more time to set up the jet and reach the departure end before your step time. I like to completely set up my jet before taking off. That means all sensors and weapons powered up and set for release. Selecting bags for selective jettison, radios and all the rest configured so that once I'm in the air I can just concentrate on navigation, sorting the airspace and and flying the jet. A couple extra minutes before step time is a nice luxury to get this done.

set g_nTaxiLaunchTime 6 with 6 in this example the amount of time from entering the 3D to take off time. Edit to taste

-- Navigation. Simple as. Hit your timing marks and steerpoints. The ability to switch frequencies to random bases on the fly is nice, to land at divert fields in emergencies, but not necessary to be flying campaigns. Always set a divert field in planning along your return leg to give you a a steerpoint to divert. Know how to return to base, follow ATC instructions and land properly. Taxi to a shut down, chocks in, engine down and canopy up for full effect smile

-- Avionics and weapons. Both radars are essential of course. Know how to turn off lights, use the data cartridge and the radio. Sniper pod (essential for me) , HTS. I'd suggest getting comfortable with the DED, to be able to see fuel estimates, wind velocity and direction and this sort of stuff, but this isn't essential to get started. Know how to set up weapons for guidance, burst altitudes, arming delays, ripple sequencing and all that stuff. No reason to carry a weapon you can't use properly. The nice thing about Falcon is that you can get by at the start just mastering maybe six weapon types and then continue to train in new ones to add them to your quiver. That was my approach, and over time I added things like JSOW, Mavericks, and SDBs. For me the core weapons to start are

-- AIM-120 (henceforth known as slammer) and AIM-9, especially the 9X. This weapon, in conjunction with the HMCS and headtracking is phenomenal. Not all blocks have it, but for the ones that do it's a fantastic capability and weapons platform.

-- Dumb bombs -- slicks and parachute. The Mark-84 is a favorite of mine. Know how to arm and deploy them, meaning understanding CCIP and CCRP modes.

-- Cluster bombs. Know which ones to use for which target types and how to set up their burst altitudes and ripples to effectively cover the target. A critical difference between older versions of Falcon and BMS is that the ripple designation point --when you hit pickle -- is the center of the string. It used to be the starting point and all bombs would fall down the line. But in BMS it is the center. So the more bombs you're dropping, the more will fall short of the pickle point. So drop on the center of columns or drop fewer bombs on dispersed targets. Well, this was true in 4.33 anyway

-- JDAM. Mark eight-four with fancy bits. Easy, safe, accurate and big boom. This weapon would be the first ground attack weapon I would learn if I were starting over. It's fantastic, especially in conjunction with the DTC and precision steerpoints. Yeah, learn precision steerpoints. Then once you've set it, you literally just fly right over at 25,000 feet and pickle in CCRP. Don't even need to target anything with radar or another sensor. Just select the steerpoint and fly over it. The bomb does the rest. It's exceptionally accurate and destructive, and the release envelope freedom makes it a very safe weapon to carry. It's all weather as well which makes it a better choice in many cases than a LGB for example.

-- HARM. Taking an active role in helping to preserve the blue air fleet is important for me in the campaign. In the early hours the enemy is at full strength, and I think this is the time to do something about it haha. The best ways to accomplish this are destroying enemy fighters and SAM systems. The HARM is the weapon to use, to shut down the radar which nullifies the launchers. On the first morning of any campaign I frag and fly what I call HARMCAP missions. Two AGM-88s, four slammers, jammer and bags. Frag it as an interdiction or zero-time an existing BARCAP and just go hunting for targets of opportunity. By flying several of these in succession the player can shut down a significant part of the enemy's SAM umbrella along the front line, making it safer for the AI to fly there later. Learn which SAM system are priority due to threat level. Actually learn all enemy SAM systems and know their capabilities to increase your survivability by knowing the proper way to react, counter and evade. In all my years flying Falcon, two weapons systems have accounted for a far outsized percentage of my lost jets -- the MiG29 and the SA-6. There are no SA-6s in Korea, but if you download add-on campaigns be advised smile

If I were to lump in all IR SAMS as one they'd be a close third. Enemy aircraft are of course dangerous, but in BMS the SAMs are probably more so, if only because some of them hide so well (ambush tactics) and some can't be detected and the first indication is either a smoke trail or a bang on your exhaust.

So yeah, those are really all that I think is needed to get started and be effective at a wide variety of mission profiles in the campaign. Then add LGBs, Mavs, JSOW, SBDs and the rest as time and enthusiasm permits.

-- Wingmen. It's important to learn the options you have and how to effectively direct the AI. They are quite good when you are puppeting them, assigning targets, getting them to rejoin and keeping them out of trouble. Part of your mission rating is wingman survivability and effectiveness so I suggest always flying as lead and shepherding the AI throughout the mission. This of course isn't a prerequisite, but the sort of thing you want to focus on as you undertake campaigns for the first time. You need the on-the-job training and experience with the AI to know how they behave.

So yeah, that's basically it. If you can do al that stuff you'll be effective in winning campaigns, getting promotions and medals. Over time you can learn more about the campaigns and how to frag custom missions, direct ground forces and generally run the campaign in the operational sense.

It's such a deep simulation that I'm sure I am leaving out a few essentials.

Good hunting.



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Originally Posted by DBond
The essential campaign skills question is an interesting one,


Thank you for your time. I have translated and preserved your notes as a relic, and I am sure they will be useful to me. Reading them, it seems to me that you have really lived those experiences, rather than simulated; confirms the exceptional nature of Falcon 4.
Honestly, at the moment I feel overwhelmed by its complexity - so far I've always taken a week to master a simulator. With this, it is almost a month that I am still at the basics. But the passion is still great and I would like to make it.
Thanks again!

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I hope nothing gets lost in translation. Looking at what I wrote there are some phrases and terminology I used to sound like I know what I am talking about that may lead to confusion. If so just ask. I thought it was an interesting question, and when the start of yesterday's Formula 1 race got red-flagged I ended up with just enough time to come up with a post.

I think if you have proficiency in the things I listed you'll be ready to hop in to the campaign. I'm sure I missed a few things. It's hard to lose a campaign, but you cannot let it happen or it will lock out higher ranks in the logbook. So it's best to have a good skills base to get off to a good start.


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Originally Posted by DBond
Originally Posted by Greybeard

What do you advise me to do?


If you're asking me, I advise you to just put that aside if it's causing problems. Out of sight, out of mind haha.

I wouldn't know how to fix it.

The essential campaign skills question is an interesting one, and it's only my view. Ask the next Falcon pilot and he'd have a different outlook I'm sure. But I like the question so I'll take a stab at it from my point of view. You're asking about which training TEs to fly, but I can't approach it from there. So I'll put it this way

-- Base Ops. You need to be able to talk to the tower, remove chocks, taxi competently, find departure ends, set up the cockpit and all the stuff around the base. Of course you can opt to start on the runway, or from a cold jet. But I always choose taxi. There's an edit you can make to add time from the time you exit the pie screen until your take off time. It gives you more time to set up the jet and reach the departure end before your step time. I like to completely set up my jet before taking off. That means all sensors and weapons powered up and set for release. Selecting bags for selective jettison, radios and all the rest configured so that once I'm in the air I can just concentrate on navigation, sorting the airspace and and flying the jet. A couple extra minutes before step time is a nice luxury to get this done.

set g_nTaxiLaunchTime 6 with 6 in this example the amount of time from entering the 3D to take off time. Edit to taste

-- Navigation. Simple as. Hit your timing marks and steerpoints. The ability to switch frequencies to random bases on the fly is nice, to land at divert fields in emergencies, but not necessary to be flying campaigns. Always set a divert field in planning along your return leg to give you a a steerpoint to divert. Know how to return to base, follow ATC instructions and land properly. Taxi to a shut down, chocks in, engine down and canopy up for full effect smile

-- Avionics and weapons. Both radars are essential of course. Know how to turn off lights, use the data cartridge and the radio. Sniper pod (essential for me) , HTS. I'd suggest getting comfortable with the DED, to be able to see fuel estimates, wind velocity and direction and this sort of stuff, but this isn't essential to get started. Know how to set up weapons for guidance, burst altitudes, arming delays, ripple sequencing and all that stuff. No reason to carry a weapon you can't use properly. The nice thing about Falcon is that you can get by at the start just mastering maybe six weapon types and then continue to train in new ones to add them to your quiver. That was my approach, and over time I added things like JSOW, Mavericks, and SDBs. For me the core weapons to start are

-- AIM-120 (henceforth known as slammer) and AIM-9, especially the 9X. This weapon, in conjunction with the HMCS and headtracking is phenomenal. Not all blocks have it, but for the ones that do it's a fantastic capability and weapons platform.

-- Dumb bombs -- slicks and parachute. The Mark-84 is a favorite of mine. Know how to arm and deploy them, meaning understanding CCIP and CCRP modes.

-- Cluster bombs. Know which ones to use for which target types and how to set up their burst altitudes and ripples to effectively cover the target. A critical difference between older versions of Falcon and BMS is that the ripple designation point --when you hit pickle -- is the center of the string. It used to be the starting point and all bombs would fall down the line. But in BMS it is the center. So the more bombs you're dropping, the more will fall short of the pickle point. So drop on the center of columns or drop fewer bombs on dispersed targets. Well, this was true in 4.33 anyway

-- JDAM. Mark eight-four with fancy bits. Easy, safe, accurate and big boom. This weapon would be the first ground attack weapon I would learn if I were starting over. It's fantastic, especially in conjunction with the DTC and precision steerpoints. Yeah, learn precision steerpoints. Then once you've set it, you literally just fly right over at 25,000 feet and pickle in CCRP. Don't even need to target anything with radar or another sensor. Just select the steerpoint and fly over it. The bomb does the rest. It's exceptionally accurate and destructive, and the release envelope freedom makes it a very safe weapon to carry. It's all weather as well which makes it a better choice in many cases than a LGB for example.

-- HARM. Taking an active role in helping to preserve the blue air fleet is important for me in the campaign. In the early hours the enemy is at full strength, and I think this is the time to do something about it haha. The best ways to accomplish this are destroying enemy fighters and SAM systems. The HARM is the weapon to use, to shut down the radar which nullifies the launchers. On the first morning of any campaign I frag and fly what I call HARMCAP missions. Two AGM-88s, four slammers, jammer and bags. Frag it as an interdiction or zero-time an existing BARCAP and just go hunting for targets of opportunity. By flying several of these in succession the player can shut down a significant part of the enemy's SAM umbrella along the front line, making it safer for the AI to fly there later. Learn which SAM system are priority due to threat level. Actually learn all enemy SAM systems and know their capabilities to increase your survivability by knowing the proper way to react, counter and evade. In all my years flying Falcon, two weapons systems have accounted for a far outsized percentage of my lost jets -- the MiG29 and the SA-6. There are no SA-6s in Korea, but if you download add-on campaigns be advised smile

If I were to lump in all IR SAMS as one they'd be a close third. Enemy aircraft are of course dangerous, but in BMS the SAMs are probably more so, if only because some of them hide so well (ambush tactics) and some can't be detected and the first indication is either a smoke trail or a bang on your exhaust.

So yeah, those are really all that I think is needed to get started and be effective at a wide variety of mission profiles in the campaign. Then add LGBs, Mavs, JSOW, SBDs and the rest as time and enthusiasm permits.

-- Wingmen. It's important to learn the options you have and how to effectively direct the AI. They are quite good when you are puppeting them, assigning targets, getting them to rejoin and keeping them out of trouble. Part of your mission rating is wingman survivability and effectiveness so I suggest always flying as lead and shepherding the AI throughout the mission. This of course isn't a prerequisite, but the sort of thing you want to focus on as you undertake campaigns for the first time. You need the on-the-job training and experience with the AI to know how they behave.

So yeah, that's basically it. If you can do al that stuff you'll be effective in winning campaigns, getting promotions and medals. Over time you can learn more about the campaigns and how to frag custom missions, direct ground forces and generally run the campaign in the operational sense.

It's such a deep simulation that I'm sure I am leaving out a few essentials.

Good hunting.







Brilliant absolutely brilliant post DBond..it’ll help newbies like myself and Greybeard enormously
cheers


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Thanks Adger, appreciate the comment. I hope it helps and I got more smile

I'm enjoying the Falcon discussion with you guys and if there's anything you want to talk about fire away.


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Looking at what I wrote there are some phrases and terminology I used to sound like I know what I am talking about that may lead to confusion. If so just ask.


Thanks DBond! I would just to be sure of what you mean with "bags".

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Bags are auxiliary fuel tanks. I carry them on most missions. Distances on the average mission aren't too far usually, especially in Korea. Internal fuel would often be enough to get there and back. The tanks allow you to reach the combat with full internal fuel, so you aren't limited in how much burner and smash you can use when the sh!t's hitting the fan. I always pre-select both tanks for selective jettison while still in pre-flight so that when it's time I can just call up the page and punch them off. Doesn't save a ton of time obviously, but it's cleaner and always the same, routine, which is good. Flying a jet like this in combat can get pretty saturated when it's busy, and any thing you can make routine and automatic helps to keep you focused, and not fumbling around or figuring stuff out. Or if you're suddenly engaged by a SAM you can quickly get the tanks off for evasion. Call up sel-jet and punch the pickle button and the tanks come off. Saves like two mouse clicks, but that's how I do it.


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Originally Posted by DBond
Bags are auxiliary fuel tanks.


Thank you! smile2

In the meantime, following your advice and skipping unessential training missions, I have successfully completed my first bombing mission (CCIP, dumb bomb). thumbsup

I find that the tutorials found on YouTube are also useful (an image sequence clarifies more than a mountain of words); the difficult thing for me is to find some of them significant but short enough, because I don't have much time: the ideal for me is that they last less than five minutes. In this case the following helped me:


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That video doesn't really give much in the way of instruction, parameters, settings and procedure. More like you're along for the ride when he makes a CCIP drop.

I'd also say he goes way too low. At the range it's fine. But in combat, flying at 7000 feet is a quick route to a silk elevator. This puts you in the envelope for virtually every weapon the Reds have. In Falcon, you either want to be right down on the deck, or way above it. The airspace between 500 feet and 10,000 feet is dead-man's land in my view.

My procedure for a CCIP drop is straight out of the book Vipers in the Storm. This book coincided with my introduction to Falcon 4 and had a big impact on how I approach the sim.

In mission planning I make sure to give a close recon look at my target. Let's say I'm dropping Mark-84 slicks on a nuclear plant and want to do as much damage as possible. I am looking to see how the target site is laid out, and identify the heading I want to fly to allow both or all of my bombs to fall along an axis that hits the most stuff. So I might identify the plant and one or more of the cooling towers. I will rotate the view to find a good approach heading to ensure that the bomb fall pattern is along the proper path to hit both of these targets in one pass. I must also estimate the distance between the identified targets in order to set the proper spacing between release pulses.

I then drag my IP steerpoint to a position that will take me to the target along this determined heading. I also drag the IP farther away, usually twenty miles. This has a few advantages which would take another post, but in short it gives me more time to get set on the run-in.

Altitude is over 20,000 feet. Of course depending on what point in the campaign you are you maybe have already obliterated all the Red weapons down there, but flying 20k+ is safer. It takes many threats out of play and especially IR SAMs which are particularly sneaky and deadly.

At about DME 6 miles I'm aligned on the attack heading, canopy-up at 22,000 feet. Bombs were armed, and ripples set at the base, and now I call up CCIP mode with the missile-step button on the right side of the stick. The max-toss cue is usually a good reference to begin the attack. I roll inverted to 30 degrees and check the throttle if necessary. In that video he pulls the throttle back, but I won't do this, as I want the speed for threat evasion and energy for the climb out after the attack. So usually something like 30 degree dive at 500 knots.

At 30 degrees pitch down I roll back canopy up. The inverted roll over to pull pitch keeps the target in sight through the wonderful bubble canopy (head tracking is so nice here) and just as important, keeps the jet pulling positive Gs. You really don't want to bunt (push stick forward to dive with negative Gs) when you're hanging heavy weapons. You risk structural damage and hung bombs. So roll over, attain the dive angle and roll back canopy up.

Find your diamond and make any adjustments necessary to flight path or dive angle to place the bomb fall line over the diamond. Hold it steady and just let the pipper track across the ground to the target. As soon as they intersect, pickle the weapons and pull. Immediately begin the climb and clearing turn. Head tracking. You want to be clearing your rear quarter for smoke trails. And done right you can swing it around to put the target in this quarter-view just as your eight-fours go boom. Pump chaff and flares. Jammer on the whole time.

Back up over 20,000 feet and turn for home.

I posted the link earlier to the mini-AAR with hotpit refueling, and this shot is also from that mission. I had just executed an attack like described above, mark-84s dropped in CCIP against a chemical plant. Here's the escape. The attack heading was 180 degrees around, so I've made my drop, and clipped it around in to a clearing turn, always looking here to clear for SAM trails. The bonus is the boom smile

I'm too low here, below that 10,000-foot self-imposed floor, but if you read the AAR you know why. I pulled 6.9G in the turn and took some inaccurate AAA fire, but thankfully no SAMs came up. Speed is good. But you really don't want to be flying at this level over enemy territory. IR SAMs eat you up at 8,000 feet.


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Originally Posted by DBond
In mission planning I make sure to give a close recon look at my target.


Holy words!

You're absolutely right, I understand ... I know! I, on the other hand, realize that I always make the usual mistake (even in other simulators): I throw myself at the goal without having studied it and without having planned the mission, trying to hit something immediately (if I hit it!). Your speech reminded me of what I was doing with Falcon 3.0 and that I had learned from a book dedicated to it by Prima Publishing; I didn't have internet then. Thanks for your valuable advice!

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Great stuff Lads ..I've put a few pics in the screenshot section of the forum cheers

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#4600768 - 06/01/22 12:59 PM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Greybeard]  
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Originally Posted by Greybeard
Originally Posted by DBond
In mission planning I make sure to give a close recon look at my target.


Holy words!

You're absolutely right, I understand ... I know! I, on the other hand, realize that I always make the usual mistake (even in other simulators): I throw myself at the goal without having studied it and without having planned the mission, trying to hit something immediately (if I hit it!). Your speech reminded me of what I was doing with Falcon 3.0 and that I had learned from a book dedicated to it by Prima Publishing; I didn't have internet then. Thanks for your valuable advice!



The pre-flight recon on a strike mission is so valuable. From 20,000 feet it can be difficult to sort out the target site through the sniper pod for example. Knowing how it is laid out from the recon is valuable. But the real pay-off is finding the proper attack heading. This works great on columns.

Ground units in Falcon can either be in column or dispersed. Columns of course are tailor-made for attack. Rippled cluster bombs for example can do the business against such a target. But if you approach the target from a perpendicular angle, your bombs will be ineffective. You want to drop them along the length of the column and this recon allows you to determine that heading and set up your flight path and steerpoints to put you on it.

One thing to consider of course is that these units can be on the move, and if so, all bets are off. Dispersed formations are even more difficult to attack effectively of course.

What you want to do when selecting a ground unit as a target is note if they have an ETA in their unit info window. If it does, they are moving and will not be where they are now when your jet arrives. In this case I like to set one target steerpoint on their current position, and a second target steerpoint on their destination (also shown with the ETA). This shows me in the HSD the probable location upon arrival and I can use GMT to find them. But their orientation may have changed as they travel down the road so you must improvise your attack heading on the fly.

Nice shots Adger. Looks great!


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#4600856 - 06/02/22 01:16 PM Re: Help required learning Falcon BMS [Re: Greybeard]  
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I mentioned how important the sniper pod is to me when flying the Viper in combat. It's invaluable to ensure I'm on the target I want to be. But one thing to be careful of when using multiple acquisition sensors in conjunction is how easy it is to slew them apart, and the sniper pod is looking at one thing while the ground radar is locked on something else.

To avoid this I never make the sniper pod SOI (sensor of interest). This ensures that whatever I've locked on the radar is what the sniper pod is pointing at. If you make the pod SOI you have to zero the TGP. And while there are reasons to do this, it's my standard procedure to always keep it slaved. This way I don't make a mistake in the saturated combat environment and become confused where the two sensors are looking.


In this shot you can see the ground radar in the left MFD is locked on a target. The right MFD will be pointing at the same target, but in this shot clouds obscure it. This was a JDAM attack on a HART site (GBU-31).

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In this shot you can see in the right MFD the HART site, with NOT SOI displayed. This is key to keeping both sensors looking at the same thing. If you don't see NOT SOI here, be sure to zero/re-slave it to avoid mistakes.


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And the result


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Well actually that was a different mission, but also at night, against a HART site and with a GBU-31. In this mission I was too focused on getting good screen shots and didn't account for the now-asymmetrical loads on my wings. While I was zoomed in to take a screen of the big boom my jet was in a spiral dive and I nearly lost it. Unzooming to find I was not in control I barely pulled out, but hung my other bomb and flew home.


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