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#4598233 - 04/27/22 08:55 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
...We know from Hubble observations the Universe is not only expanding, but the rate of expansion is increasing.

Tada! Dark matter! Or so they posit in science because really nobody has any other answer as to why this is happening.

Just a quick pedantic note - I believe you meant dark energy, as dark matter is generally considered to have the opposite effect - additional gravitational pull that slows the expansion.


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#4598245 - 04/27/22 09:23 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman

I think starting with the second option is the best course. I refuse to simply accept the placeholder of "dark matter" until we can define what space actually is, first.



Space is water, holy water. the firmament its in the bible, also the reason the indians considered our world rested on the back of a turtle....why a turtle and not a turtoise ? WATER.....space is water ! that is why liquid fuel rockets cant burn in space, its not because of vaccum, its because its wet !

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#4598246 - 04/27/22 09:27 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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That is indeed a fascinating post Allen except that the earliest humans such as the genus Australopithecus arose only about 2 million years ago.


FWIW: I agree. My "500 million years to develop humans" was referencing the fact that the very first ultra-simple single-celled organisms that could reproduce came into being over 500 million years ago (based on some estimates -- nothing is for sure).

Those very-simple single-celled organisms were far simpler than the simplest current single celled creatures/germs/viruses. They then began evolving; and, over very-roughly three hundred million years became dinosaurs.

The dinosaurs had the run of the place until roughly 62 million years ago when the "comet" (or other large object) hit the earth and virtually (or completely) exterminated all the major dinosaur species (it has been speculated). So, lesser creatures, like mammals, had much less competition and "room" to evolve. And, after about 60 million years of mammal evolution, the first humans got going very recently. Your 2 million years ago for Australopithecus is "very recently" in the "big picture scheme" of evolution -- as you noted.

So, that's where my 500 million years for evolution to make humans came from (first single "cell" organism that could reproduce to now). Humans like us today, have only been around for 10s of thousands of years -- we're just "babies still in the womb" in the big scheme of evolution. But, by my "pet theory" we don't have much time left before sentient/intelligent computers take over. Maybe that always happens to the few truly intelligent biological life forms that evolve.


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#4598251 - 04/27/22 10:13 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: Arthonon]  
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Originally Posted by Arthonon
Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
...We know from Hubble observations the Universe is not only expanding, but the rate of expansion is increasing.

Tada! Dark matter! Or so they posit in science because really nobody has any other answer as to why this is happening.

Just a quick pedantic note - I believe you meant dark energy, as dark matter is generally considered to have the opposite effect - additional gravitational pull that slows the expansion.


Yes. Basically was a blanket expression though. They're placeholders for something we can't explain.

#4601578 - 06/12/22 07:08 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Space is big we can't be the only life. We didnt make the pyramids.

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#4601591 - 06/12/22 10:54 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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You actually bother to necro an old thread to post something so flippant?


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#4601593 - 06/13/22 12:27 AM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
You actually bother to necro an old thread to post something so flippant?


The thread is mine, i allow it.

#4601595 - 06/13/22 02:55 AM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Hey, if people here want to say all day long that little green men built the pyramids because the Egyptians were just too dumb to do it themselves they can knock themselves out! smile


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#4601621 - 06/13/22 04:05 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Hey, if people here want to say all day long that little green men built the pyramids because the Egyptians were just too dumb to do it themselves they can knock themselves out! smile


yes and they dont need your validation, have a nice day.

#4601622 - 06/13/22 04:28 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Originally Posted by Blade_RJ
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yes and they dont need your validation, have a nice day.



Nope they sure don't! Everyone has a right to be blissfully ignorant if they choose that for themselves.

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#4601634 - 06/13/22 05:43 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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i said good day sir !

#4601650 - 06/13/22 09:06 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Blade_RJ
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yes and they dont need your validation, have a nice day.



Nope they sure don't! Everyone has a right to be blissfully ignorant if they choose that for themselves.



I think we should allow people to post things even if others think the topic is being resurrected. Nothing offensive or against either the letter or spirit of the forum rules was said.


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#4601653 - 06/13/22 09:14 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
You actually bother to necro an old thread to post something so flippant?


Yesterday was 6/12. Mr_Blastman reply before mine was 4/22. 51 days. That's old? Engaging that same rule, you must be 100 years old in cat years then.

#4601656 - 06/13/22 09:35 PM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Ok, that’s enough on it from the three of you. Let alone and proceed on to happier things.


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#4601665 - 06/14/22 01:55 AM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Ok, that’s enough on it from the three of you. Let alone and proceed on to happier things.


all i said was have a nice day, guy kept coming back wanting to moderate the thread on his high horse and have the last word while low key name calling to circumvent forum policy.

#4601666 - 06/14/22 02:19 AM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Isn’t that just upping the heat level ?


C’mon; just leave it alone.


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#4601684 - 06/14/22 10:24 AM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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I simply find it interesting just how many of these "do aliens exist" threads we've had on SimHQ over the past couple of years. Hasn't the discussion of that topic been exhausted already?

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#4601686 - 06/14/22 10:52 AM Re: Did we really just shrugged off Pentagon basically admiting aliens are real ? [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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There is plenty of valid information out there on who built the pyramids, you just have to stay away from the likes of conspiracy.com (that may or may not exist but I'm willing to bet it does) and the many idiotic YouTube channels that propagate such nonsense.

The art of building pyramids may be lost but that doesn't mean we have to assume it was built by aliens because it seems impossible to us. Look at what fantastic structures we build today.


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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Hasn't the discussion that topic been exhausted already?


No because it is a question that hasn't been answered: are we alone?

There is not enough evidence to decide either way. Things happen, or come to light, from time to time to raise the possibility that we're not. Sometimes those things get explained away rationally, sometimes they're not and we are left wondering. As long as the question exists the topic will not be exhausted.


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Originally Posted by F4UDash4

There is not enough evidence to decide either way. Things happen, or come to light, from time to time to raise the possibility that we're not. Sometimes those things get explained away rationally, sometimes they're not and we are left wondering. As long as the question exists the topic will not be exhausted.





But unfortunately we keep getting inundated with click-bait articles and blogs about "UFO sightings" or "new planet found which MAY have had life" which present their speculation as fact or being highly possible.


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