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#4590731 - 02/02/22 02:40 PM Billboard 100  
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Out of curiosity I looked at the current Billboard Hot 100 list and I was surprised to see TWO songs on the list that I recognized. Both of the songs are from the Disney movie "Encanto". biggrin


Well you know, pop music is exactly that; it's music that happens to be popular with the mainstream so it's highly subjective and changes very quickly with time.


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#4591115 - 02/08/22 05:22 PM Re: Billboard 100 [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Is old Music killing new Music?


Music industry execs have basically killed the industry.


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#4591117 - 02/08/22 05:31 PM Re: Billboard 100 [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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This right here is a MAJOR caveat:

"Only songs released in the past 18 months get classified as “new” in the MRC database, so people could conceivably be listening to a lot of two-year-old songs, rather than 60-year-old ones."

So by "OLD" this doesn't really mean consumers are still listening to tons of Classic Rock or Oldies.

What I can tell you from my own observation of looking at the recent Billboard Hot 100 is that the vast majority of the songs were from R&B or Rap artists.


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#4593104 - 03/02/22 12:37 AM Re: Billboard 100 [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I can't remember the last time I listened to the radio and I don't stream, even with a recent upgrade to my satellite internet (although my flip phone service has been cut...AT&T pulling the 3G plug). So I don't know what music is out there now.

1965 to 1995, still overwhelmed by the size of my music library which I can't imagine ever tiring of.

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<Just rambling.>

The argument that every decade of music has its bad/forgettable crap, and we only remember the good stuff through rose-colored headphones...what utter BS! Who cares about the crap (which is subjective anyway)??? No one is forced to listen to crap! Only the good stuff matters, and the years I've listed (with some rare exceptions of before and after) has by far the most good stuff! 1965 to 1995 are the best years in music. Change my mind!

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#4593131 - 03/02/22 02:31 PM Re: Billboard 100 [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG
Only the good stuff matters, and the years I've listed (with some rare exceptions of before and after) has by far the most good stuff! 1965 to 1995 are the best years in music. Change my mind!

tuner




Look at it this way, compare the Billboard Top 100 of 1967 with the Billboard Top 100 of 2021. How many artists in the 1967 list have become legendary and will still have people listening to their music 50 years from now? A HECK of a lot more than the artists in the 2021 list! Just look at them now and compare:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_1967


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_2021


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#4593160 - 03/02/22 07:45 PM Re: Billboard 100 [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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That really puts things into perspective, PM.

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On a personal note...

1967...the year I was born (only 5 weeks older than my wife) and yet sooo many recognizable songs and artists in that listing.

2021...I'm so far behind now that I hardly recognize any music today, and at my age I'm fine with that. So much of my favorite music is still being played in tributes and covers so it's no problem finding live entertainment when the mood hits. I don't see this changing in my lifetime, especially with fun 70's/80's music.

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Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4593161 - 03/02/22 08:06 PM Re: Billboard 100 [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Concerning the Billboard 100 list for 2021, I have heard of several of the artists on it but I don't listen to their music at all.


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#4593182 - 03/03/22 04:54 AM Re: Billboard 100 [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Here's my very generalized and simplistic view of what went wrong with popular (as in recognizable, not necessarily Pop) music, at least the music I listen to (plus a couple of decades or so previous)...

Black musicians were the originators, inventors and trend setters. "Back to the Future" touches on this with the Chuck Berry phone call from his cousin Marvin, for him to hear Marty McFly's 'new sound.' smile

Whites were influenced by (some say copied) black music and made it their own, a win-win because it was all outstanding (and so often crossed racial barriers).

Then unfortunately somewhere along the way, 'Soul Train' jumped the track with black music being replaced with Rap/Hip hop. As before, whites followed and embraced the current black trend and here we are.

There were other factors like MTV of course, where video became as important as audio (this should never be the case, IMO).

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On a relative note...

Something else not being made anymore (that I know of) is well-crafted uplifting good clean soulful love songs, and that's a dam shame!

Here's a couple of my favorite NOT so radio-popular softer tunes (and not even by Earth Wind & Fire, Commodores, Kool & the Gang, etc.)...

The Gap Band - Yearning For Your Love (Slayd5000)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jxEP4BFm4


Con Funk Shun - By Your Side


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQPrO0kxal8

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But in fairness to early Rap (which I have a handful of songs, the funny ones by Sir Mix-a-Lot, LL Cool J, Tone Loc, as well as the monster Coolio and Sugarhill Gang tunes), a fantastic song that's borderline Rap...

Quincy Jones - The Dude


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7K7WfjP7SM



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
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Also wanted to point out that social commentary never needed Rap (and U2 smile )...

Marvin Gaye - What's Going On


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-kA3UtBj4M


Marvin Gaye - Mercy Mercy me


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwbz5MdDqzU


Living Colour - Open Letter To A Landlord


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V5VkMqM07s


Might not count, need to check...

Seal - Crazy (Official Music Video) | Warner Vault


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fc67yQsPqQ



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4593202 - 03/03/22 11:29 AM Re: Billboard 100 [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Wow, Seal. I wonder what he's doing these days?


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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Wow, Seal. I wonder what he's doing these days?


I dunno. I only have his first two CDs:

Seal (1991): "Crazy", "Future Love Paradise"
Seal II (1994): "Prayer for the Dying", "Don't Cry", "Kiss from a Rose"

Music for the soul.

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Maybe history will repeat itself and one day we'll get a modern-day Jimi Hendrix to inspire the next modern-day Edward Van Halen. smile

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"The band is just fantastic
That is really what I think
Oh by the way, which one's Pink?"

Right here...

Attached Files Pink_Anderson_and_son.jpg


The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
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I have Fox News on in the background and something just caught my attention, a Ukrainian woman outdoors on a piano playing Queen's "We Are the Champions."

Timeless music that inspires.



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run

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