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#4591566 - 02/14/22 01:58 AM The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power  
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Amazon pay $1 billion to make this. I hope it will be as good as the 6 movies.

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#4591567 - 02/14/22 02:45 AM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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My prediction:

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#4591569 - 02/14/22 04:18 AM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
My prediction:

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I'm expecting it to be very well done visually, but be very "woke" and just try to check every box and end up failing because they tried to be woke rather than good. We will see.

#4591573 - 02/14/22 10:02 AM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I struggled to stay awake in the trilogy myself.


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#4591575 - 02/14/22 01:04 PM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: Ajay]  
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Originally Posted by Ajay
I struggled to stay awake in the trilogy myself.



If that's the case then I'd say the entire fantasy genre just isn't your cup of tea!


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#4591576 - 02/14/22 01:39 PM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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My girlfriend took me to see the first LoTR. I wasn't even remotely interested in the genre or knew anything about the films but you know ... women. Near the end I was thinking to myself 'how are they going to resolve this in under 10 minutes'? When I mentioned it to her she said it's a trilogy. Suffice to say the relationship didn't last. I've still not seen the other two.


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#4591578 - 02/14/22 02:11 PM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: ebud]  
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Originally Posted by ebud
[quote=Crane Hunter]My prediction:

I'm expecting it to be very well done visually, but be very "woke" and just try to check every box and end up failing because they tried to be woke rather than good. .


Or following the source material, which is widely loved and read around the world.

#4591588 - 02/14/22 04:49 PM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Amazon pay $1 billion to make this. I hope it will be as good as the 6 movies.



You mean three. The Hobbit movies don't count, as they were awful. How one can think turning 95,000 or so words into three three hour movies is perplexing.

The LOTR movies were pretty good though. A show based on 480,000 words? Seems like a huge stretch.

Consider that the material "Game of Thrones" is based off of, the "Song of Fire and Ice" saga, is about 1,770,000 that has been released--and the last two seasons were based off of speculation.

480k words is worth maybe what, one season at best?


In genre fiction pacing is everything. So unless they plan on adding in redundant lines and filler scenes that add nothing, there's not enough here for a full on series. If they start stuffing the scenes with new stuff they run a huge risk of ruining everything. The story is written to 480k words and that's all there is. Done. No more. Not a reason to add more stuff.

Now, the series is based off supposed "The Silmarillion" but even that is only 130k words. Here, we run into the same problem that we did with "The Hobbit."


I'm with the others. Got any marshmallows and smores?

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#4591609 - 02/14/22 07:59 PM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Amazon pay $1 billion to make this. I hope it will be as good as the 6 movies.



You mean three. The Hobbit movies don't count, as they were awful. How one can think turning 95,000 or so words into three three hour movies is perplexing.

The LOTR movies were pretty good though. A show based on 480,000 words? Seems like a huge stretch.

Consider that the material "Game of Thrones" is based off of, the "Song of Fire and Ice" saga, is about 1,770,000 that has been released--and the last two seasons were based off of speculation.

480k words is worth maybe what, one season at best?


In genre fiction pacing is everything. So unless they plan on adding in redundant lines and filler scenes that add nothing, there's not enough here for a full on series. If they start stuffing the scenes with new stuff they run a huge risk of ruining everything. The story is written to 480k words and that's all there is. Done. No more. Not a reason to add more stuff.

Now, the series is based off supposed "The Silmarillion" but even that is only 130k words. Here, we run into the same problem that we did with "The Hobbit."


I'm with the others. Got any marshmallows and smores?

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The difference between the silmarillion and things like GoT is how descriptive and verbose GoT is. The Silmarillion takes a couple of dozen words to describe some massive action that can easily be an entire episode. GoT uses a few thousand words to describe a dress.
I'll watch it and see how it is, and hope they don't mess it up.

#4591643 - 02/15/22 04:18 AM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I've never read the Hobbit so I thought the trilogy was OK. I've seen much worse and I've seen much better. I think the fundamental issue is that the Hobbit trilogy really stood zero chance of living up to the expectations of most people due to the global success of the LOTR trilogy.


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#4591659 - 02/15/22 01:06 PM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: Chucky]  
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Originally Posted by Chucky
When I mentioned it to her she said it's a trilogy. Suffice to say the relationship didn't last. I've still not seen the other two.


biggrin You made me laugh Chucky and I spilled my coffee!


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#4591668 - 02/15/22 03:20 PM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
I've never read the Hobbit so I thought the trilogy was OK. I've seen much worse and I've seen much better. I think the fundamental issue is that the Hobbit trilogy really stood zero chance of living up to the expectations of most people due to the global success of the LOTR trilogy.


How about the Hobbit cartoon film from 1977? I thought it was vastly superior to the modern live action equivalent, and it ran only 77 minutes. I saw it dozens of times as a kid.

#4591669 - 02/15/22 03:34 PM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman


How about the Hobbit cartoon film from 1977? I thought it was vastly superior to the modern live action equivalent, and it ran only 77 minutes. I saw it dozens of times as a kid.



I THINK I saw it once when I was a kid but totally forgot about that until the Jackson films came out.


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Originally Posted by Chucky
My girlfriend took me to see the first LoTR. I wasn't even remotely interested in the genre or knew anything about the films but you know ... women. Near the end I was thinking to myself 'how are they going to resolve this in under 10 minutes'? When I mentioned it to her she said it's a trilogy. Suffice to say the relationship didn't last. I've still not seen the other two.


of course it didnt last, you speak at the movies. good on her , go queen !

#4591709 - 02/15/22 07:00 PM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I remember many very angry customers at the end of The Fellowship of the Rings when I saw it in the theater. It just ended suddenly and they never knew or expected that it was the first part of a larger story.

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Originally Posted by wormfood
I remember many very angry customers at the end of The Fellowship of the Rings when I saw it in the theater. It just ended suddenly and they never knew or expected that it was the first part of a larger story.



Wow. I hadn't read the book either when I first saw Fellowship but I at least knew it was part of a trilogy! LOL


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#4591753 - 02/16/22 08:56 AM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: Chucky]  
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Originally Posted by Chucky
Near the end I was thinking to myself 'how are they going to resolve this in under 10 minutes'? .


That last ten minutes seemed like hours to me as I was bursting for a wee and didn't want to disturb other cinema-goers as I was in the middle of a row.



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I usually read the book around the Holidays and watch the movies along with Band of Brothers every year since 1971 ..I'm 72 now and enjoy a good read.


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#4591755 - 02/16/22 11:36 AM Re: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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How many pages is a standard paperback edition of LOTR? The longest book I've ever read is "Don Quixote" and that was roughly 1,000 pages.


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PM I have the full paperback trilogy and the appendixes are around 1198..Somewhere I have a fancy leather bound edition.-


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