#4589914 - 01/23/22 06:20 AM
Re: How to identify squadron mates in air
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truezzL,
What side are you flying? What year? Generally speaking, individual "skins" are fairly rare for Allied planes, especially the British, throughout the war. German planes will also tend to look the same, at least early in the war.
“With Major Lawrence, mercy is a passion. With me it is merely good manners. You may judge which motive is the more reliable.”
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#4589925 - 01/23/22 01:56 PM
Re: How to identify squadron mates in air
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If you fly with the TAC on, your squad is green when in range (about one nautical mile), other friendlies are blue, and the enemy is red. As I implied you must be within a certain range for the colors to show up.
More Scotch and Stogies for my Wingman!
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#4589935 - 01/23/22 03:49 PM
Re: How to identify squadron mates in air
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Absolutely. What I meant is that from a distance, the markings may look very similar, at least before they start to become more garish later in the war.
Carry on!
“With Major Lawrence, mercy is a passion. With me it is merely good manners. You may judge which motive is the more reliable.”
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#4589944 - 01/23/22 07:48 PM
Re: How to identify squadron mates in air
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truezzL,
I see you are from Switzerland. My great-great-great grandfather emigrated from Switzerland in 1847. I think he came from the village of Andermatt. When my parents visited 30 years ago, the local restaurant thought he had stolen the identity of a local citizen because they had the exact same name!
“With Major Lawrence, mercy is a passion. With me it is merely good manners. You may judge which motive is the more reliable.”
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#4589950 - 01/23/22 09:50 PM
Re: How to identify squadron mates in air
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thank you guys for your answers.
So I'll have to switch on labels to see you could confirm my kill. I don't get too many and I would love to have them confirmed ;-)
In my experience, WOFF doesn't care if you accurately list the correct witness; just select any witness that was in your flight and all will be fine. The pending claim will typically show a note something to the effect of 'probable, witness was in the players flight', indicating to me that "the witness being in your flight" is the key criteria. The algorithm is probably not so fancy as to keep track of which pilots were close to you when you downed an enemy, as that would require major programming.
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#4589960 - 01/24/22 05:32 AM
Re: How to identify squadron mates in air
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thank you guys for your answers.
I see there is no individual skin for every flightmember. So I'll have to switch on labels to see you could confirm my kill. I don't get too many and I would love to have them confirmed ;-)
I just thought it looks kind of strange sometimes (for example RAF46 - iirc - with the Sopwith Pup in April 1917 and every flight member has a 3 on the fuselage, made me think that this was a personal skin not a squadron skin).
Therefore I thought that maybe I messed something up by installing the skinpacks.
Rule #1 for identifying squadron mates: be German. I also find it really helps to stick with a squadron for a good long while, get accustomed to your squad mates in the Duty Room so that they feel more "real" as people / as characters. Then they'll stick in your mind better when you turn on the labels at take-off, and it will be reasonably easier to keep track of your squad mates in the air from that point on. At least that's how I do it. I even make up mini plot arcs for some of the AI-generated pilots - and it's kinda sad how much I've gotten to know about the real pilots of the RNAS squadrons. In terms of getting stuff confirmed, I find it also really helps if you can make note of the location and any ground witnesses on your side: observation balloons, ground units, sector HQ etc. At least, that's what I do and it seems to work - I've had some kills where I had no witnesses from my squadron (#%&*$# Albies took down my flight mate), but I still got in on the strength of observation balloons and ground units.
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#4590018 - 01/24/22 04:24 PM
Re: How to identify squadron mates in air
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Yeah, there were a lot of people leaving Switzerland at this time. Some regions here were really poor and held no future for it's inhabitants so they left (mostly to the USA).
:-D I can imagine your parents being suspected of idendity theft. Some people here don't know / can't imagine that there were times when we "fled" the country. Where did they go to when they were here?
If you ever want to do some research on your swiss roots let me know if i can help you out! Thanks! Unfortunately, my parents only had a day or two in Switzerland. I believe they were in Lucerne, passed through Andermatt for lunch, and ended up near or in Bern. Thank you for your offer about genealogy. I may take you up on that! Sadly, my great-great-great grandfather's story has a sad and ironic ending. After ending up in or near Knoxville, Tennessee and living as a farmer, he was shot and killed by soldiers sometime in November of 1863 during the battle of Knoxville. Family lore is that he was shot for refusing to let Union soldiers steal one of his cows, but I believe he was more likely killed by a sniper on either the Union or Confederate side. His farm happened to be roughly midway between the Union and Confederate lines. The land where his farm was located is now the Knoxville country club! Ironic he was killed during a civil war after leaving Switzerland because of religious strife! He should have stayed there!
“With Major Lawrence, mercy is a passion. With me it is merely good manners. You may judge which motive is the more reliable.”
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#4590047 - 01/24/22 07:45 PM
Re: How to identify squadron mates in air
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truezzL
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Thanks! Unfortunately, my parents only had a day or two in Switzerland. I believe they were in Lucerne, passed through Andermatt for lunch, and ended up near or in Bern.
Thank you for your offer about genealogy. I may take you up on that! Sadly, my great-great-great grandfather's story has a sad and ironic ending. After ending up in or near Knoxville, Tennessee and living as a farmer, he was shot and killed by soldiers sometime in November of 1863 during the battle of Knoxville. Family lore is that he was shot for refusing to let Union soldiers steal one of his cows, but I believe he was more likely killed by a sniper on either the Union or Confederate side. His farm happened to be roughly midway between the Union and Confederate lines. The land where his farm was located is now the Knoxville country club! Ironic he was killed during a civil war after leaving Switzerland because of religious strife! He should have stayed there!
Wow that's sad. Civil wars are always especially brutal. I'm not an expert on the American Civil War but I read a book or two about it. Just let me know if you need anything and I'll see if I can help you. Lucerne and Berne are very nice cities. 1-2 days is a short time but I guess they had a least a first impression.
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#4590329 - 01/28/22 12:41 AM
Re: How to identify squadron mates in air
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Beautiful pictures, Raine. I see you have been lucky enough to visit Andermatt twice!
The only things I received from my parent's trip was a postcard and a bar of Swiss chocolate! Of course, at that time, I was not really into family genealogy, so I wasn't particularly upset at not being able to go. Now, I would love to see the place firsthand. I would also like to see Stauber falls, which is located in the same Canton. My surname is Staub, meaning dust, and the falls apparently means dusty or misty falls. I don't think it means dirty falls, though! I imagine that my ancestors were either bakers, undertakers, or poor as dirt. That may have been why they left!
“With Major Lawrence, mercy is a passion. With me it is merely good manners. You may judge which motive is the more reliable.”
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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