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#4589499 - 01/17/22 12:10 AM Aviatik B.I  
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I confess, I'm a newbee...I've trained on the Be2c plenty of times OK, but then I gave my German pilot a go in an Aviatik B.I The plane goes up, and almost immediately goes into a stall. I'm pushing forward on the stick, scaling back my throttle, but I've crashed again and again. If it stabilizes, it's only for a moment, and I don't have the attention span to spare in order to locate my mates and proceed with the mission. What could I be doing wrong??

#4589526 - 01/17/22 12:57 PM Re: Aviatik B.I [Re: ShadowOfGod]  
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good news, you're fine, it's something with the plane. I tried to start a campaign with it a while ago and reported the same - almost full forward stick just to stay level. I can't imagine that is accurate for the real plane, maybe something for the devs?

#4589533 - 01/17/22 02:50 PM Re: Aviatik B.I [Re: ShadowOfGod]  
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Hallo @SOG,

it's difficult from the distance. I fly it in campaign these days. So let me say this:
Yes, in Quick-combat the AvB1 goes up into stall. So you must push the stick and then use throttle! You need enough speed with AvB and C and a sensible stick-use! It's no aeroplane for fast and hard movements or "hard curves".
I use "z" for speed-control and I'm careful when I'm slower than 90 or 100kmh.
And yes, you must push the stick to stay level, but "almost full forward stick" I can't confirm.

Greetings

#4589535 - 01/17/22 03:18 PM Re: Aviatik B.I [Re: ShadowOfGod]  
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No particular problem taking off in the Aviatik B.I here and climbing out on full throttle. The only issue I found that even by WW1 standards when many aircraft were reportedly tail-heavy, if I have the stick in the neutral position, she just wants to drop her tail and put her nose into the air. So a lot of forward pressure on the stick is needed to keep her level and avoid a stall, especially in turns it's important not to let the nose go up and the angle of attack to increase as the speed drops.

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#4589541 - 01/17/22 03:49 PM Re: Aviatik B.I [Re: ShadowOfGod]  
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Yes, @lima, I forgot to write that you must be careful with the nose in turns. She wants to go up and then you have the problem with speed and stall again.

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#4589543 - 01/17/22 04:18 PM Re: Aviatik B.I [Re: ShadowOfGod]  
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It's fine here, yes you need some forward stick as it wants to climb, but nothing that a gentle push forward can't fix. Make sure you have some throttle. If it's very weird for you then you may need to calibrate your stick (both Windows control panel, and in sim) or adjust its sensitivity in the control settings in WOFF Workshops (Re Map Keys/Controllers, click on an axis, click on Advanced). To do it in sim, at runtime pause, then push the stick fully back and forward, left and right and circle to full extents if necessary before unpausing.


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#4589545 - 01/17/22 05:19 PM Re: Aviatik B.I [Re: ShadowOfGod]  
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Very good tip Mark! Is that recommendation documented somewhere? Sorry I don't recall.

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#4589551 - 01/17/22 08:09 PM Re: Aviatik B.I [Re: ShadowOfGod]  
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I seem to remember documenting it somewhere, where is the thing..


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#4590952 - 02/05/22 06:45 PM Re: Aviatik B.I [Re: ShadowOfGod]  
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I've had two flights since then...once the engine malfunctioned and I landed in No Man's Land! Managed to scamper home to safely, however. The second time my aircraft did a wing dip just before landing. Got out OK, however.

#4590959 - 02/05/22 09:32 PM Re: Aviatik B.I [Re: ShadowOfGod]  
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Originally Posted by ShadowOfGod
I confess, I'm a newbee...I've trained on the Be2c plenty of times OK, but then I gave my German pilot a go in an Aviatik B.I The plane goes up, and almost immediately goes into a stall. I'm pushing forward on the stick, scaling back my throttle, but I've crashed again and again. If it stabilizes, it's only for a moment, and I don't have the attention span to spare in order to locate my mates and proceed with the mission. What could I be doing wrong??


Just noticed this. If you are using rudder pedals, make sure you have disabled the rudder twist function on your joystick, as this will produce weird results as you unintentionally twist the stick while flying. Also make sure there are no other conflicts, I have had my right toe brake for some reason bound to my elevators, with the expected disastrous results. Does this behavior happen in other planes?


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#4590966 - 02/05/22 11:27 PM Re: Aviatik B.I [Re: ShadowOfGod]  
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Also make sure your rudder pedals are only using the appropriate axis, if you leave the toe brakes working you may find them acting like a joystick, one doing roll and the other pitch.

Beard


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#4590970 - 02/06/22 08:06 AM Re: Aviatik B.I [Re: ShadowOfGod]  
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As well, you might wish to check over the alternative, tweaked FM for the Aviatik B.I. Good hunting and observing at slower, historical speeds, among other tweaks.

Cheers all,
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