#4583178 - 10/21/21 02:41 PM
Re: Trafalgar Day
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We always say "never forget" but as generations pass , we do
This is very true. From my US perspective, events like D-Day and Pearl Harbor used to get a TON of attention both in the news media and in local communities but there has definitely been a decline over the past 20 years or so.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
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#4583227 - 10/21/21 09:18 PM
Re: Trafalgar Day
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England expects that every man will do his duty. I have stood on the exact spot on the deck of HMS Victory where Nelson was hit by the sniper. I urge everybody who hasn’t been there to visit the National Museum of the Royal Navy in Portsmouth and go aboard her for a visit,
In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
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#4583246 - 10/22/21 03:25 AM
Re: Trafalgar Day
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There was another ship that was around for a long time, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Implacable_(1805)
Scuttled in 1949.
There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB. The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed. There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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#4583259 - 10/22/21 08:55 AM
Re: Trafalgar Day
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England expects that every man will do his duty.
I have stood on the exact spot on the deck of HMS Victory where Nelson was hit by the sniper. I urge everybody who hasn’t been there to visit the National Museum of the Royal Navy in Portsmouth and go aboard her for a visit, And of course the wonderful Mary Rose museum, part of the Portsmouth Historic Dockyard you refer to! My wife's maternal Grandfather, after serving and seeing action in both World Wars, served out his final days as painter and gilder, maintaining the Victory, figureheads and artifacts that are now part of the exhibits there. During the ongoing restoration now, during restepping of the mainmast, they found the farthing (coin) placed there for luck during a refurbishment of the 1850s. A British naval Tradition I read. "Come cheer up, my lads! 'tis to glory we steer, To add something more to this wonderful year; To honour we call you, not press you like slaves, For who are so free as the sons of the waves? Heart of oak are our ships, Jolly Tars are our men; We always are ready, steady, boys, steady! We'll fight and we'll conquer again and again"
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#4583298 - 10/22/21 01:48 PM
Re: Trafalgar Day
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It's the Ship of Theseus all over again. As far as I'm concerned, it's the same ship. So what if parts get replaced. Suppose someone told you they had a 1925 Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe but then said "oh yeah and by the way, only the steering wheel and the radiator are original. The rest of the car has been gone through several restorations".
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
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#4583326 - 10/22/21 05:50 PM
Re: Trafalgar Day
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It's the Ship of Theseus all over again. As far as I'm concerned, it's the same ship. So what if parts get replaced. Suppose someone told you they had a 1925 Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe but then said "oh yeah and by the way, only the steering wheel and the radiator are original. The rest of the car has been gone through several restorations". Newer, but identical parts than the original? Then cool, it's a 1925 Rolls Royce that runs and you can drive it. What's not to like?
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#4583359 - 10/22/21 09:22 PM
Re: Trafalgar Day
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Several of the airworthy Spitfires today have been rebuilt from little more than the data plate, a seat and the left aileron. Is it still a Spitfire, and would I give a kidney to fly one? Yes!
In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
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#4583363 - 10/22/21 10:16 PM
Re: Trafalgar Day
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Several of the airworthy Spitfires today have been rebuilt from little more than the data plate, a seat and the left aileron. Is it still a Spitfire, and would I give a kidney to fly one? Yes! Most old a/c flying today have been completely re-built.
There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB. The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed. There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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#4583457 - 10/23/21 09:05 PM
Re: Trafalgar Day
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Several of the airworthy Spitfires today have been rebuilt from little more than the data plate, a seat and the left aileron. Is it still a Spitfire, and would I give a kidney to fly one? Yes! Most old a/c flying today have been completely re-built. And that's ok. So what if most of it's been rebuilt, it's still a Spitfire. Pieces get old, sometimes rebuilt, sometimes replaced, and sometimes they get passed on. It goes for old ships, planes, cars, organizations and even your body with all it's cells.
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Exodus
by RedOneAlpha. 04/18/24 05:46 PM
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