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#4582754 - 10/17/21 02:06 AM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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I commend DCS for how far they have come. I am more and more impressed as I mess around with the latest version.

I'm hoping for a built in dynamic campaign, however.

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#4582770 - 10/17/21 12:31 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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They have vastly improved the core with these new clouds/lighting, and most 5 years old early accesses are almost complete by now indeed.

However, before putting up an immersive built-in dynamic campaign, they need to work the way AI and player interact, especially awacs and wingmen, but also ennemy fighters and bombers.

If/when they rework this interaction, having GCI objects and associated interaction va radio menu for the blue side, in addition to awacs, will be welcome.

#4583812 - 10/28/21 04:24 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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#4586857 - 12/12/21 01:38 AM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: eonel]  
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Originally Posted by eonel

I would be suggesting taking the edge off some off the most repetitive comments about ED business model, quality of releases and fanboy name calling


Perhaps ED haven't learned from their previous mistakes and continue to release alphas/betas that take far too long to represent what most people define as a finished or complete product?

If you're seeing repetitive comments, maybe just maybe, ED aren't improving their releases but continue to sell new products and the same issues are being raised. Maybe you think there should be a double-jeapardy rule where if an issue is raised....it can't be raised again on a new product?


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#4586967 - 12/13/21 01:23 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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I'll choose double-jeopardy for the win, please

Ya how long has ED being producing these mistakes? 10, 15 years? This could make things seem repetitive

Yes, yes I know. We simmers are to blame for the poor quality of product over the past decade ourselves. I'll choose double-jeopardy again, please


#4587012 - 12/13/21 06:36 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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To me the primary failing DCS has not addressed yet is the lack of Dynamic Campaign. Users have made their own, though, with Liberation and there are several online servers that have "dynamic environments" with shifting FLOT and base control, which to me, goes a long way towards capturing that missing element.


I have thousands of hours in Falcon 4.0/BMS. I know the Viper like a car. I can be away for months or years but when I open the door and sit down in front of the controls, my instincts take over and there's nothing to learn.

When I tried the DCS version of the Viper a few months ago, just after ground radar was introduced, the experience was the same. I have no idea what the state of the Viper was on early access release, but I waited as long as I did because I didn't want a halfway capable plane.

I'm glad we have the choice to not pay for something that's incomplete, but I won't fault those who do, because they're the ones who help ED pay their bills to keep producing new content.

#4587123 - 12/14/21 07:10 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: eonel]  
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Originally Posted by eonel
I would be suggesting taking the edge off some off the most repetitive comments about ED business model


Part of the reason for "repetitive comments" is because of:

Originally Posted by rollnloop.
They have vastly improved the core with these new clouds/lighting, and most 5 years old early accesses are almost complete by now indeed.


Many folks have not embraced the snails pace that ED slows down to once they receive pre-release money and then take years to finish. The obvious answer is not to purchase pre-release products from ED knowing you will not receive a finished product for years.

It requires an unprecedented amount of patience not neccesary in other forms of gaming to be a good ED customer...it can be upsetting to some.


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#4587128 - 12/14/21 07:45 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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The obvious answer is not to purchase pre-release products from ED knowing you will not receive a finished product for years.

And this is the crux of the matter and the main reason why they can get away with all that. The Customers !, but hey it is a free country and one can burn their monies anyway they want.

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#4587393 - 12/17/21 07:56 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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I think the flight simmers (customers) have bent over backwards for ED because quite simply there's just NO ONE else making new modern jet combat sims. Without ED all we would have is BMS which is great but nonetheless still a mod for a flight sim originally released in 1998 and we have previously released sims from developers who no longer exist.


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#4587400 - 12/17/21 11:00 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
I think the flight simmers (customers) have bent over backwards for ED because quite simply there's just NO ONE else making new modern jet combat sims. Without ED all we would have is BMS which is great but nonetheless still a mod for a flight sim originally released in 1998 and we have previously released sims from developers who no longer exist.


100% correct Panzer.

For myself and many others...we have been bent over to our breaking point and probably won't be buying any more ED products. Certainly not during an early release period anyway. My last purchase was the Huey. I'm lucky that I enjoy many other areas of gaming and can focus my attention there. I also don't really need cutting edge graphics in a flight sim to have fun...immersion and feeling like a combat pilot in a war is done much better in older titles. (and BMS doesn't look too shabby graphics wise)

To each his own...everyone is capable of prioritizing what they need in a flight sim and how long they're willing to wait after purchase for it to be fully functional.


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#4587423 - 12/18/21 01:49 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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#4589844 - 01/21/22 06:57 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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#4590196 - 01/26/22 09:19 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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Looks great but I wish the OH-58D would come out already. I am more interested in it, I guess all the years of Apache sims burnt me out on gunships.I always have more fun scouting or flying armed transports on cargo/ferry missions.

#4593795 - 03/10/22 06:12 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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#4593806 - 03/10/22 07:46 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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#4593809 - 03/10/22 08:00 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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#4594349 - 03/17/22 05:17 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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And its' out. At least if you're running the beta version,
There's several general fixes to the game in general, other aircraft and addons to the Syria map.

Full notes here:
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/news/changelog/openbeta/2.7.11.21408.1/

#4594357 - 03/17/22 08:05 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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What a nice pressie on patricks day

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#4594359 - 03/17/22 08:18 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Stormtrooper]  
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I can't install.

Major hard drive crashes every attempt. Full system reboots and black screens!

I have no issues copying/installing files with anything else. DCS crashes my drive.

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#4594363 - 03/17/22 08:53 PM Re: AH-64 Apache [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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