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#4582636 - 10/15/21 01:08 PM Aircraft carriers with rubber decks  
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and aircraft with no landing gear.

Never heard of this before. I would have said BS about landing without gear until I read this.

https://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/blo...arrier-design-that-led-the-world-part-1/


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#4582646 - 10/15/21 02:15 PM Re: Aircraft carriers with rubber decks [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Wow, news to me also.

How were they supposed to take off? Did I miss that?


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#4582651 - 10/15/21 03:28 PM Re: Aircraft carriers with rubber decks [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Wow, very interesting, thanks! I knew the Brits developed the angled flight deck, but had no idea it had its inception with a "rubber" flight deck.


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#4582653 - 10/15/21 03:38 PM Re: Aircraft carriers with rubber decks [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Video

[video:google]https://youtu.be/f7Lu6LEQ0zo[/video]


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#4582656 - 10/15/21 03:49 PM Re: Aircraft carriers with rubber decks [Re: oldgrognard]  
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That poor airframe. Nice way to ruin a plane structurally on landing.

#4582660 - 10/15/21 03:58 PM Re: Aircraft carriers with rubber decks [Re: oldgrognard]  
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I have talked to the man who made that landing, Eric «Winkle» Brown. I have his signature in my logbook. He was truly a giant of aviation, and it is an honour to have met him.


In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
#4582666 - 10/15/21 05:03 PM Re: Aircraft carriers with rubber decks [Re: semmern]  
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That's a great memory, talking to WInkle that is. What a fascinating life he led.

#4582667 - 10/15/21 05:04 PM Re: Aircraft carriers with rubber decks [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Thanks for the link. Great article thumbsup

Interesting that it took a few years of experiments with rubber decks to realize that merely getting the planes off the rubber deck in a timely manner would doom the idea. That calculation could have been made much earlier.

Right out of College, I and many "established Scientists" worked a few years on a unique Project to improve aircraft fuel use. Eventually, I figured out that there was a "fly in the ointment" -- our particular solution could never work -- we were wasting our time.

I decided to move on and continue my career in a different direction. Most of the "veterans" I started with kept working on it for many years afterwards. Our solution never worked.

We all make mistakes. The trick is to uncover them early. As the "veteran Scientists" demonstrated, Its hard for people to "drop a bad idea" -- if they've spent a good chunk of their careers working on it.

I wonder if someone figured out the issue with timely (very fast) aircraft removal from rubber decks early in the rubber deck research project, brought it up, but the others continued on.


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#4582685 - 10/15/21 11:46 PM Re: Aircraft carriers with rubber decks [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Eric Brown has flown EVERYTHING in his time I believe.



The only guy I can think of that even comes close is Bob Hoover, another incredibly talented and versatile pilot.


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