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#4579890 - 09/13/21 12:55 AM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Amazing attention to detail. U guys rock

#4579907 - 09/13/21 08:43 AM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
Thanks - I try.
Before I start a model I always research the aircraft type and if possible, the particular pilot and his aircraft.
I use the internet a lot, but also have reference books, including many Windsock Data files, which are dedicated to certain aircraft of WW1.
Other modelers information and pointers can also be helpful.
Finally I have those online, such as our own 'Shredward', who are veritable mines of information.
Then it's a case of filtering out what is doubtful and filling in the gaps with educated guesses.
Once I have all I need, I'll start by writing as much as I can into my build log, including relevant photographs and illustrations.
Then I'll start on the model itself and where necessary, modify or enhance parts as I go.
The good thing is that in most cases, no-one can say for sure about particular details of WW1 aircraft, especially regards their colour schemes.
Even so called experts can get it wrong sometimes,

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#4580134 - 09/15/21 01:04 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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And of course there is always the "filed mod" excuse for misinformation. A lot of these planes were modded in the field by very good and observant mechanics... then the info fed back to the manufacturer as a design alteration.

Mike, I think, but I am not 100% sure the D.I was only built by Johannisthal. Although the camo pattern on the wing pic you posted looks like the LVG variant. Just double check that. They are very different between the manufactures, as were the painting of the lower wing struts and data plate/serial number locations. Most notable on the D.II variant that was mass produced. It's all in the Windsock for the D.I/D.II and JFM's book as well.

Looks awesome so far!


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#4580381 - 09/17/21 02:25 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi James,
Thanks.
I have both so I will check.
Whether the colour of the upper surfaces of the wings were camo or the same as the fuselage is unconfirmed.
Some suggest camo, others same shade of green.
The age old problem when modeling WW1 aircraft,

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#4580467 - 09/18/21 04:47 AM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Those guns almost look like they would actually fire!


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#4580486 - 09/18/21 09:58 AM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi Rick,
''GasPatch' resin guns.
These are the correct type I need to fit,

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#4580520 - 09/19/21 01:29 AM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Very nice!


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#4580564 - 09/19/21 08:25 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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I know you've probably seen these, SB, but I'll attach them anyway so others can check 'em out. They are a bit grainy but I don't have anything clearer.

Attached Files Wings 1.jpgWings 3.jpgWings 4.jpg
#4580567 - 09/19/21 09:13 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi James,
Thanks - I've not seen the first two before.
What's your take on the possible colour of the upper surfaces of the wings/ailerons and tail plane/elevators?

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#4580643 - 09/20/21 04:03 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Really hard to interpret those pics, but I think, and I really hesitate to say it, but I think we are seeing Johannisthal 3 colour camo (olive, pale green, rust brown) on the wings and tail. But that could just be the product of a fetid imagination. dizzy Or, I could be full of it, and the wings are monocolour, same as the fuselage. I would suggest the mottling that is quite evident on the ailerons is from the painting out of the white field on the Cross, ordered by Idflieg on 30 October 1916, the white field being replaced with the white outline.
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#4580662 - 09/20/21 05:52 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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For what little my input counts I'm inclined to agree, Ted. I see a different shade of grey (or is it a whiter shade of pale?) on both upper and lower planes, especially the latter in the second image. Or I could be full of it too - I not infrequently am.


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#4580663 - 09/20/21 06:05 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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#4581565 - 10/01/21 10:15 AM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Originally Posted by Shredward
Really hard to interpret those pics, but I think, and I really hesitate to say it, but I think we are seeing Johannisthal 3 colour camo (olive, pale green, rust brown) on the wings and tail. But that could just be the product of a fetid imagination. dizzy Or, I could be full of it, and the wings are monocolour, same as the fuselage. I would suggest the mottling that is quite evident on the ailerons is from the painting out of the white field on the Cross, ordered by Idflieg on 30 October 1916, the white field being replaced with the white outline.
Cheers,
shredward


Hi Ted,
I'm inclined to agree with camoflaged upper surfaces.
I believe the three colour camouflage was predominately applied on D.I aircraft built by LVG.
Below is a top profile of a D.I two tone scheme, although it differs from the photo of a D.I, which was presumably also Johannisthal built.
I think I'll go with the two tone colour scheme, as it'll be different from most models I've seen of this aircraft.
Besides, who knows exactly what colours the wings actually were.

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#4581624 - 10/01/21 07:40 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
Slower than usual progress on the Albatros D.I (real life got in the way).
I've airbrushed the fuselage and upper surface of the elevator with a mix of Tamiya Cockpit Green (XF73) mixed with White (X2).
It's the closest I could get to the colour profile by Ronnie Barr.
The nose and forward decking panel is Tamiya Medium Sea Grey (XF83).
Next up is the two tone brown/green for the upper surface of the wings and tail plane, which will be covered with clear linen effect 'Aviattic decal..
The undersides will be light blue linen effect 'Aviattic decal.
It'll all be weathered in due course.

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#4581696 - 10/02/21 07:20 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
Upper surfaces camo painted.
Mixed ‘Tamiya’ J.A. Green (XF13) with White (X2) and Flat Brown (XF10) with White (X2) to an approximate ratio of 80/20.

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#4582318 - 10/09/21 05:01 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
Some progress on the Albatros D.I.
The smoothed and grey primed surfaces were clear gloss coated with 'Alclad' Aqua Gloss 600.
The undersides of the wings and tail unit had the ‘Aviattic’ German blue linen (ATT32077) white backed decal applied.
The upper surfaces of the wings and tail unit had the ‘Aviattic’ clear Linen Weave effect (ATT32236) decal applied.
All surfaces were then airbrushed with 'Alclad' Light Sheen (ALC311) lacquer.
The 'Roden' kit supplied decals were as expected very thin and fragile and were easily broken when applied.
Also this particular aircraft had marking not available as decals.
Therefore I inkjet printed all of the decals required onto white decal paper then sealed them with two coats of acrylic sealer.

I decided to try out the 'Quinta Studios’ 3D printed Albatros D.I set (QD32076).
The model raised details were already sanded away before painting.
Due to the time it took for the set to arrive in the UK from Russia (via Poland), I had already closed up the fuselage.
Therefore I only used the Part 1 sheet which had the external details.
These were brush painted to match the surrounding colours on the model parts.
I did not used the two strips on the upper surface of the lower wing roots as they were way too thick.
Instead I used strips of painted photo-etch.

All surfaces were then airbrushed again with 'Alclad' Light Sheen (ALC311) lacquer.
Weathering was applied using the 'Flory Models' Dark Dirt fine clay wash.
All surfaces were then finally airbrushed with 'Alclad' Light Sheen (ALC311) lacquer to seal it all.

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#4582377 - 10/11/21 01:51 AM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Looking good! Constructive criticism: Cross on the tail is way too small. I agree with Shredward about the mottling.

#4582389 - 10/11/21 11:44 AM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi James,
Good spot.
I've realised what I did.
I applied the decals on the fuselage and tail the wrong way around.
The larger should be on the fin, the smaller on the fuselage sigh
Also the rudder seems not to have the white background (due to light colour of the rudder).
Hmmmm - tricky to correct at this stage as they've been weathered and sealed confused
Let's see,

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#4582534 - 10/13/21 10:03 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi James,
I've managed to fix the fuselage and fin/rudder decals (see previous post photographs).
A bit better I think,

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#4582644 - 10/15/21 02:10 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
Just a small update.
I've added photo-etch mesh to the front and rear of the 'Windhoff' radiators.
The photo-etch was heated slightly to create a heated look and then given a dark wash.
I've also added the bottom drain cock, made from 'Taurus Models' engine fuel primer.
Finally I added the radiators upper and lower attachment plates to the fuselage,

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