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#4577923 - 08/22/21 06:27 PM 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I  
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Hi all,
I've taken a short break to start the new tool Airfix 1:72nd scale Avro Vulcan B.Mk.2 for a friend who used to be a crew chief on No.44 Squadron at RAF Waddington.
However, as it's not due to be delivered until December, I've made a start on another WW1 aircraft.
This model from 'Roden' will represent the Albatros D.I of Ltn. Dieter Collin of Jasta 2 ’Boelcke’, flying from Berthincourt, September 1916.

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During 1915 the German Fokker Eindecker fighters were dominant over the current allied aircraft of the time.
Eventually however, better designed fighters, such as the De-Havilland DH.2 of the Royal Flying Corps (RFC) and the French Nieuport fighters soon gained the advantage.
The German Idflieg (Inspectorate of Flying Troops) sought better designed fighters from German aircraft companies and protoypes from Halberstadt and Fokker were being test flown by the Spring of 1916.
However these designs, although better, did not surpass the allied aircraft in general performance.
The Albatros Flugzeugwerke Gmbh company, which had only produced two seat aircraft, created what was then considered to be a radical design for a fighter, which was designed by Robert Thelen.
Following the lead of the allied bi-plane fighters, particularly the French Nieuport’s, the prototype Albatros D.I featured a more powerful engine and a streamlined plywood skinned fuselage (semi-monocoque), which differed from it’s contemporaries, which had linen covered structure.
Performance during flight testing was enough for the Idflieg to place an initial order for 50 aircraft with serial numbers D.422/16 to D.471/16.
Although a second batch was ordered with serial numbers D.472/6 to D.521/16, these were never built as the improved Albatros D.II was already in production.
In total, seven units were formed and operated the Albatros D.I, the second unit being Jasta 2, formed at Laguincourt during August 1916 and commanded by Oberleutnant (later Hauptmann) Oswald Boelcke.
The introduction of this aircraft caused concern, especially as it proved superior to the RFC DH.2 fighters.
However, it’s operational career was short and by the end of 1916 the Albatros D.I was being replaced by the newer D.II.
Of the 50 aircraft built, some survived to the end of the war, being used as flight trainers.

This particular Albatros D.I was a pre-production version and had differences to the production aircraft.
An Anemometer was fitted to the forward, starboard interplane strut and the expansion tank for the engine cooling system was located at the front of the forward engine cylinder.
The propeller fitted was an ‘Axial’, rather than the more often fitted ‘Reschke’ type.
The serial number of this aircraft has been stated as being D384/16, but it seems this may not be the case.
Although the aircraft was probably delivered in the standard factory finish, it was later painted in an undefined green colour.
In addition, the white Crossfield of the Balken Cross markings on the upper wing were painted over, leaving the remaining Crossfields intact.

Initially this aircraft was flown by Diether Collin and his personal marking of a white ‘Co’, outlined in black, was added to the fuselage sides, to the rear of the Balken Cross.
Later this aircraft was flown by the Prussian Prince Friedrich Karl, when the markings of Collin were replaced with skull and cross bones on a black background marking.
These were applied to the fuselage sides and the propeller spinner.
On the 21st of March 1917, Prince Karl was wound during combat with DH.2 fighters of No.32 Squadron (RFC).
He made a forced lading between the lines but was shot in the spine as he attempted to reach the safety of his own lines and died of his wounds.
The aircraft was later captured and given the RFC identification of G-17.

On the 13th of August 1918, Collin was severely wounded during combat with Sopwith Camels of No.204 Squadron (RAF) over Bailleul and later that day died of his wounds, aged 25.

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#4577926 - 08/22/21 06:44 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Informative bit of history! Thanks. Looking forward to how youdisplay this one Mike.


I noticed the word "commision" in your post! Please do share photos of it. I guess you will be more skilled at packaging now that we have progressed past my fiasco biggrin

Good luck to you mate!

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#4577928 - 08/22/21 07:04 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Drool..... drool... and more drool... filling the bucket ....

I can't WAIT to see this one!

Best luck with it!


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#4577931 - 08/22/21 07:48 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Yikes! December? You can get one right now in UK from Model Hobbies for £54.00. Add £6.00 and delivery is free. But I guess you’re not in a rush biggrin
Mine came in July.
But this is better. It’s an Albatros after all. readytoeat


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The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
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#4577935 - 08/22/21 09:36 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Fullofit]  
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Originally Posted by Fullofit
Yikes! December? You can get one right now in UK from Model Hobbies for £54.00. Add £6.00 and delivery is free. But I guess you’re not in a rush biggrin
Mine came in July.
But this is better. It’s an Albatros after all. readytoeat


and it's built by "SANDBAGGER"!!!! No substitute will be accepted!!


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#4577963 - 08/23/21 12:33 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Fullofit]  
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Originally Posted by Fullofit
Yikes! December? You can get one right now in UK from Model Hobbies for £54.00. Add £6.00 and delivery is free. But I guess you’re not in a rush biggrin
Mine came in July.
But this is better. It’s an Albatros after all. readytoeat



Actually I got it a few weeks ago and it's already being built biggrin
It doesn't have to be delivered in December, so plenty of time yet yep
I've modified the internal structure to be able to mount it on bent acrylic rod and in a take-off position.

Mike

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#4577965 - 08/23/21 12:50 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Hi Rob,
I've changed the initial post as the Vulcan is a build for a friend so not really a commission as such,

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It’s an impressive “Eindecker”. Will you, or have you corrected any of the mistakes associated with the museum piece that the model was based on?


"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4578006 - 08/23/21 07:36 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Fullofit]  
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Originally Posted by Fullofit
It’s an impressive “Eindecker”. Will you, or have you corrected any of the mistakes associated with the museum piece that the model was based on?



Well, I'm trying to build it based on some research but mainly photographs taken at the time of that squadrons aircraft.
Like many completed models, it may end up not an exact representation, but hopefully close enough for government work,

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#4578014 - 08/23/21 10:19 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Please get back to real aeroplanes Bagger. That thing looks like some fantastical creation from the imagination of young Herbert George Wells. dizzy

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Originally Posted by catch
Please get back to real aeroplanes Bagger. That thing looks like some fantastical creation from the imagination of young Herbert George Wells. dizzy


hahaha I will,

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#4578054 - 08/24/21 04:03 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Regarding the Alb in question, a few things:

1. It definitely was NOT 384/16. That plane had struts between the horizontal stabs and rudder--the only Alb D I've seen with them--and a Reschke prop. I also have photos of it crashed, and clearly it is not the same machine. E.g., the struts, painted differently, etc.

2. Be careful of that profile. Photos show the rudder was entirely white, not CDL with a white crossfield.

I'll see if I can attach photos of 384/16 pranged, and the Prince's machine so you can see the rudder.

Attached Files Albatros D.I 384-16_crash.jpgJasta Boelcke Prinz Albatros D.I.jpg
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Hi James,
Many thanks.
I've been reading your D.I-D.II book.
It always amazes me how much research you must do for your books.
The level of information is fantastic.
I still haven't managed to complete reading your two MVR books!!

I'm struggling a bit try to figure out the coolant expansion tank at the front of the engine cylinders and it's associated external pipework.
Dan San Abbot thought there was a header tank between the fuselage cabane struts, but I'm not sure.
Looking at contemporary illustrations, it looks like the tank was directly connected by a pipe to the gallery supplying the two fuselage mounted 'Windhoff' radiators.

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Thanks, Mike!

I'm not sure about the exact plumbing on that machine. As far as DSA's thoughts, I'm not saying he's wrong, as I've not seen any official internal diagrams, but there'd be very little room there for anything between the struts with the engine, guns, ammo bins, spent belt bins, and fuel tanks there. In the cropped closeup of this machine I'll attach below, there *is* a protuberance jutting above the Maxim but it looks to be the fuel tank air pump. There appears to be two lines leading back above the camshaft, one of which curled above the wing, but I'm unsure about the other. In this view it almost looks to be attached to the air filter but why would that be? I'm not saying it IS attached, mind you. Can't tell for certain, and this is the closest/clearest shot I have at the moment.

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Hi James,
Yes I had my doubts about DSA's suggestion of a header tank.
These illustrations show the cabane struts with only re-enforcing webs at the front and rear.
My best guess is is coolant was pumped through the supply pipe at the lower right of the six engine cylinders.
It then passed up through the outer cooling jackets to the collector pipe at the top of the cylinders and from there into the expansion tank.
The photo seems to show two narrow pipes from the tank being routed rearwards, with one bending up towards where the upper wing would be.
As this aircraft did not have a wing fitted radiator, I can only assume the two pipes were routed down inside the to supply the hot coolant to the side mounted 'Windhoff' radiators.
From there the coolant would be supplied back to the water pump for re-circulation through the engine.
The only reason I can see for an expansion tank having a pipe routed upwards would be if it was a for releasing over pressurization of the cooling system.
Later D.I's with the standard over engine expansion tanks have these pipes.

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#4578593 - 08/29/21 11:31 PM Re: 1:32nd scale Albatros D.I [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The engine is completed.
It's the basic kit engine with just a few enhancements, as most will be hidden by the the fuselage.
I've added:
Ignition lead support tubes (1.0 diameter brass tube).
Ignition leads at the spark plugs and magnetos (0.3 mm diameter lead wire).
Coolant expansion tank and pipe (modified WNW engine cylinder and 0.4 mm diameter Nickel-Silver tube and flexible black tube).
Coolant supply pipe from water pump to cylinder integral gallery.
Carburettor control rods (blackened 0.4 mm Brass tube).
Air vale at rear of camshaft housing.
Fuel feed pipes to base of the carburettor.
Spare WNW data plate decals.

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Ah, a real engine, not one of those whiny things. You're cookin' Bagger.

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Very nice!

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