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#4576130 - 07/31/21 06:35 PM Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape.  
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How many miles it's on it?



https://www.historynet.com/heikendorf-tank.htm

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in summer 2015 when Berlin police conducted a search of the home. the police discovered an 88 mm flak cannon, 70 assault rifles and machine guns, an unspecified number of semi and fully automatic pistols and a trove of Nazi memorabilia, including busts of Hitler, mannequins outfitted in Nazi uniforms, swastika pennants and SS rune-shaped lamps. They also found an Arno Breker bronze sculpture of a nude man, once reputedly located outside Hitler’s Reich Chancellery, in an outdoor garden. The collector also owned a replica of a V-1 rocket.

Even has a Flak 8.8. How did he get get them?

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...-the-cellar-is-bad-man-finds-166115.html (nice photos here)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57965260

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Lawyers in Germany are wrangling over how to deal with a pensioner who stored a World War Two tank, anti-aircraft gun and torpedo in his basement.

The items were removed from a house in the northern town of Heikendorf in 2015 with the help of the army.



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#4576161 - 07/31/21 11:18 PM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Wild story! Thanks for posting.

The items were recovered in 2015. Let's go bust 'em out of their confines! dibs on the Panther tank commander position! cowboy


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#4576168 - 08/01/21 01:06 AM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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That Panther don't have tracks belt on it, only the wheels.

#4576169 - 08/01/21 01:11 AM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Wow can u imagine being in a foxhole and seeing the Monster headed Ur way.

#4576174 - 08/01/21 01:24 AM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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You just found out about this now? eek


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4576175 - 08/01/21 01:35 AM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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It was on the news this morning. Don't remember hearing about it in 2015.

#4576186 - 08/01/21 02:41 AM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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The story broke NOW because the guy who had the Panther in his basement is going to trial in Germany NOW for the laws he violated.


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#4576192 - 08/01/21 04:58 AM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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6 years to get to trial?

#4576203 - 08/01/21 11:41 AM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
6 years to get to trial?

Since when is any kind of government bureaucracy quick? And besides, you had the whole pandemic thing which I’m sure delayed things even more.


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#4576306 - 08/02/21 03:16 PM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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In 1978/79 here was a very strong winter, almost every street was covered so high with snow, that is was impossible to drive on them, some cities and villages were completely cut off. Back then, the owner drove his Panther to clear his street. some people told. Might be an urban myth though


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#4576308 - 08/02/21 03:40 PM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: kilosierra]  
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Originally Posted by kilosierra
In 1978/79 here was a very strong winter, almost every street was covered so high with snow, that is was impossible to drive on them, some cities and villages were completely cut off. Back then, the owner drove his Panther to clear his street. some people told. Might be an urban myth though



Too bad the Panther didn't have a "hedgerow clipper" attachment like the Sherman did. wink

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#4576479 - 08/04/21 06:49 AM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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They damaged it, dragging it out of the basement. No respect.


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#4576722 - 08/06/21 11:59 PM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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The guy has been sentenced now. 14 months suspended sentence, 250,000 Euro fine and he has to sell the 88 and the panther within the next two years.

It is a strange thing, the sentence does not seam to have anything to do with the tank/88, he was sentenced for a machine gun barrel and two rounds of amunition. Fair enough, he could not legally own those, but why does he have to sell the stuff he aparently legally owned? And he did legally own them, that is why they are forcing him to sell them, if ownership of them was illegal, they'd just confiscate them and that would be that.

Couple of wierd sentiments around where I live in Germany, "oh thank god, imagine if he had restored the engine and driven that thing into a neighbours house..." Well, a buddy of mine has a caterpillar, granted, few less tons and not quite the same hp, but still, should he be forced to sell it? Seems to be a case of "that's war stuff and I don't like that".

#4576727 - 08/07/21 01:33 AM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I Google World War 2 museums and can't find any. Is that not allowed in Germany? A museum of tanks and airplanes and weapons and uniforms and history of Nazi Germany during World War 2? WIKI has a list but they are not military museums.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:World_War_II_museums_in_Germany

#4576741 - 08/07/21 01:38 PM Re: Wow! That Panther Tank is in excellent shape. [Re: Shadrik]  
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Originally Posted by Shadrik
Seems to be a case of "that's war stuff and I don't like that".


I agree. It’s an irrational overreaction to events that occurred during WW 2.


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