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#4575080 - 07/22/21 06:47 AM Russian Checkmate -- F-35 competition?  
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#4575093 - 07/22/21 02:35 PM Re: Russian Checkmate -- F-35 competition? [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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From the article above:

Russia also plans to dominate the hypersonic weapons space with its latest test of the Zircon missile that is expected to be deployed with warships and submarines in the not too distant future.

Went looking:

WIKI says it can go as fast Mach 9. That is scary

https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...h-russia-test-hypersonic-zircon-missile/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M22_Zircon


#4575103 - 07/22/21 03:54 PM Re: Russian Checkmate -- F-35 competition? [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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The Checkmate appears to be 3rd world export market oriented, it's supposed to be very cheap to buy and operate.

I don't think it'll stack up the F-35 in most respects, but it may well end up ultimately outselling it as Western aligned countries now seem to be sacrificing 5th fighters on the altar of 6th gen.

#4575157 - 07/23/21 10:49 AM Re: Russian Checkmate -- F-35 competition? [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Time to start utilizing all those UFO's we're hiding rolleyes


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#4575158 - 07/23/21 10:54 AM Re: Russian Checkmate -- F-35 competition? [Re: KRT_Bong]  
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Originally Posted by KRT_Bong
Time to start utilizing all those UFO's we're hiding rolleyes



I'm sure that will be the next headline from our sensationalized entertainment-driven news media very soon.


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#4575300 - 07/24/21 06:26 PM Re: Russian Checkmate -- F-35 competition? [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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At the minimum it will be on par with a MIG-29M/MIG-35. Suffice to say, that is good enough to pose a strong threat. No doubt it will be inferior to the F-35 but depending on how well the avionics are and how good the stealth aspects are it will give it an edge over F-16s, Super Hornets, Eurofighters and Rafales. Which is what it will compete against.

It will of course be a while until it actually enters production. But I think in markets like Vietnam, India and other Asian countries it may find a spot as those countries aren't getting F-35s within this decade. Vietnam seems to be ordering the Su-57 but at the same time seems to want to become more closely aligned with the US. Depending on the route they choose, maybe they will fly a mixed fleet of Su-57 and Su-75s. Or go with American/European options.


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