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#4574464 - 07/15/21 05:30 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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#4574477 - 07/15/21 08:18 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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No knobbies here! I tried with that snow storm we got back in Feb, but it went like 6 ft. then just started slipping on the ice.


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#4574484 - 07/15/21 09:09 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Unsurprisingly, there are more models planned on this platform, this looks a lot better to my eye.

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#4574485 - 07/15/21 09:43 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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YUK!!!


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4574491 - 07/15/21 11:04 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Really? IMO that would actually be one of the better looking bikes out of Harley's current lineup, although I would be changing out that exhaust pretty quickly.

#4574492 - 07/15/21 11:44 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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I prefer the air cooling fins on the cylinder jugs of the classic Harleys. I loved the cylinder cooling fins on my old 1968(?) Triumph.



I like being able to see through the bike some.



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#4574497 - 07/16/21 02:24 AM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
I prefer the air cooling fins on the cylinder jugs of the classic Harleys. I loved the cylinder cooling fins on my old 1968(?) Triumph.



I like being able to see through the bike some.



The current air cooled Big Twins don't feature a lot of airspace and the cylinder fins have become almost vestigial at this point, so you're not missing out on all that much with the new bikes.

It's a shame they couldn't have made the Revolution Max engine look at least a little less Cyberpunk though.

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#4574715 - 07/19/21 02:58 AM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Call me jaded after 38.5 years years as a motorcycle mechanic, but "Hardly" only know hows to build overly expensive rototillers. Indian is made by Polaris. The worst engendered for maintenance and, by far, the most expensive replacement parts. Granted, Polaris has replaced Honda as the most ergonomic and best for the consumer that constantly trades up.

smile to me, the best motorcycles are at least 18 years old.


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#4574717 - 07/19/21 03:07 AM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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49 mph, 3.1 gallon tank. 151 miles is not a lot for cross country trips. What if there is no gas station for 152 miles?

#4574718 - 07/19/21 03:13 AM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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wink where, in the civilized world, is there more then 150 miles before fuel? Perhaps you are looking for the wrong style of motorbike.


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#4574719 - 07/19/21 03:27 AM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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These look amusing, useful even offroad, but they're crazy expensive here in North America unless maybe you manage to import a used one from the Gopnik bloc.


#4574728 - 07/19/21 08:42 AM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
These look amusing, useful even offroad, but they're crazy expensive here in North America unless maybe you manage to import a used one from the Gopnik bloc.


That's interesting; I purchased one of the first Ural imports into England back in 1970.
Top speed 50 m.p.h., compression so low that one could operate the kicker by hand. Terrible build quality, when we stripped it down just 10k miles later we found the flywheel and other components had German markings on them, so presumed they were looted at the end of the war!
I gridlocked central London when it overheated due to lack of airflow on the sidecar cylinder, melting the solder on the carb floats and the thing caught fire.
Cylinder bolts failed and I was riding along with a pot flapping about in the breeze once.
The main problem, not a fault of the bike, was the early imports had the sidecar on the right, so danger of overturning due to adverse camber as we drive on the left here, which was eventually my undoing.
It was good fun off-road though after i brought it to mt parent's new abode in the country!



#4574742 - 07/19/21 12:56 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Lol Urals. If I ever win the lottery I'll buy one as it looks like loads of fun, and I'd then have the time available to keep fixing it.

As for Noflyboys comments about the range of the bike, most people I know that do or have done cross country trips typically take a break after 100-150 miles anyway. And if long trips are your thing, there's bikes much better suited to that.

#4574743 - 07/19/21 01:00 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: wormfood]  
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Originally Posted by Brit44 'Aldo'
wink where, in the civilized world, is there more then 150 miles before fuel? Perhaps you are looking for the wrong style of motorbike.

Originally Posted by wormfood


As for Noflyboys comments about the range of the bike, most people I know that do or have done cross country trips typically take a break after 100-150 miles anyway. And if long trips are your thing, there's bikes much better suited to that.



IDK. Never rode a motorbike.

#4574752 - 07/19/21 02:00 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
49 mph, 3.1 gallon tank. 151 miles is not a lot for cross country trips. What if there is no gas station for 152 miles?


Then you're an idiot with extremely poor planning. But 150+ miles nonstop is completely unrealistic if you're really travelling. That'll wear you out pretty good even for a first leg, but if you're doing thousands of miles you're getting off the bike way more than every 150 miles...

#4574754 - 07/19/21 02:14 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Got quite a few comments to respond to, so apologies for the long post....

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Footpegs nearly underneath handlebars - like a chopper, but who'd want to sit on THAT bike like that??


Umm, me? actually for distance riding (>300miles) It is more comfortable- no weight on legs so no cramping- add floorboards (ability to change leg position) and I'm good for 600miles and can still walk when I get there- never been able to do that on any 'conventional' peg position bike

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I prefer the look of the Indian Scout Bobber, it's closest competitor

Actually in many ways I think the FTR is nearer in many ways- almost identical power

Trooper- nice bike thumbsup , if it had been released when I bought the Scout I might have changed horses- tho I do prefer belt drive

ArgonV- again nice bike- chairs just aren't for me tho

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Indian is made by Polaris. The worst engendered for maintenance and, by far, the most expensive replacement parts. Granted, Polaris has replaced Honda as the most ergonomic and best for the consumer that constantly trades up.


Touch wood, 4 years in (and 1yr left of guarantee) I would respectfully disagree re maintenance. Parts are 'spendy'-partic this side of the pond- but not much more than some other American/Italian imho

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smile to me, the best motorcycles are at least 18 years old

Make that 40 years biggrin

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49 mph, 3.1 gallon tank. 151 miles is not a lot for cross country trips. What if there is no gas station for 152 miles?

Well I trust manufacturer's figures as much as I trust a politician so I doubt you'd get 150 miles anyway unless 'babying it'. 100-120 stretch is plenty for 'civilised' countries :duel
And the only time I've NEEDED that was doing the NC500 (should be a must for any biker). Seriously, if you are travelling some parts of US then prior planning is a must- carry fuel can(s) or get something with a 5gal tank- and even then stops every 100 miles or so for a pee/stretch:/ coffee/mental recalibration is a really good idea on 2 wheels (imho).

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IDK. Never rode a motorbike.

Thought so- just maybe consider NOT making bold statements like that about something you have no idea about- a polite question maybe a better route?

And back nearly on topic-


And if you are into bikes (and very good vid production values) you might like to check some of his other vids


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#4574756 - 07/19/21 02:16 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Ural is just a cheap version of the BMW.


There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
#4574759 - 07/19/21 02:28 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
Ural is just a cheap version of the BMW.

Maybe so, but at least Ural still makes them like that. I've never seen a BMW sidecar in the wild, or know where to get one.

#4574764 - 07/19/21 02:37 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Botox, that was a great video. I’ve ridden since 1970, had a couple Harleys, and didn’t know most of that engineering.

Thanks for posting.


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#4574773 - 07/19/21 03:17 PM Re: The new Harley Sportster S [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Very interesting video...

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