#4572982 - 06/28/21 05:28 AM
Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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What pitiful writing. I’ve read this a couple times and am appalled with the writing. Can’t figure out what is being said other than two men were killed in a tandem parachute jump. https://www.the-sun.com/news/3167368/skydivers-dead-tandem-jump-australia/
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#4572986 - 06/28/21 07:35 AM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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It reads as if they're talking to a small child with short, simple sentences. IMO it's an artifact of The Sun being a tabloid - it has to cater to the lowest common denominator in its audience. That said, it's The Sun, what did you expect ? BTW, since you're an admin: you might want to disable this account here, it's credentials are available on bugmenot.com: http://bugmenot.com/view/simhq.com
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#4572990 - 06/28/21 09:44 AM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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#4572995 - 06/28/21 11:08 AM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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My 'Waiting for Clod' thread: http://tinyurl.com/bqxc9eeAlways take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.Elie Wiesel. Romanian born Jewish writer, professor, political activist, Nobel Laureate, Holocaust survivor. 1928 - 2016. Indeed the safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C.S. Lewis, 1898 - 1963.
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#4572998 - 06/28/21 11:44 AM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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What I find really annoying is the repetition in the reporting. You have the main description in the top picture which is then repeated at the beginning of the paragraph. I've also seen it for a third time in the actual article. Quite honestly I find modern journalism to be of a very poor standard. Local on-line news is probably the worst. The repetition thing also plagues TV programmes. Always repeats what happened previously after the commercial break. I'm glad I don't have to suffer the TV too often.
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#4572999 - 06/28/21 11:50 AM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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What I find really annoying is the repetition in the reporting. You have the main description in the top picture which is then repeated at the beginning of the paragraph. I've also seen it for a third time in the actual article. Quite honestly I find modern journalism to be of a very poor standard. Local on-line news is probably the worst. The repetition thing also plagues TV programmes. Always repeats what happened previously after the commercial break. I'm glad I don't have to suffer the TV too often. I can only speak for my country but the vast majority of US journalists are now either social justice warriors and/or entertainers. That's the fundamental problem. If you want to be informed and educated then you need to dig and do your research if you want to find a decent news source.
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#4573002 - 06/28/21 12:10 PM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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The repetition thing also plagues TV programmes. Always repeats what happened previously after the commercial break. That is is because people have a very short memory, even if the break is only for a couple of minutes. What I don't like is the sensationalism required for TV ratings, CNN, for example.
There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB. The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed. There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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#4573007 - 06/28/21 12:28 PM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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What I don't like is the sensationalism required for TV ratings, CNN, for example.
The masses want to be entertained as if they are watching a circus or a really bad car wreck. The Romans got it absolutely right more than 2,000 years ago.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
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#4573014 - 06/28/21 01:05 PM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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What I found so bad was the inaccuracies. For instance:
Why did it say the airplane was “in difficulty”. Nothing else about that.
Says parachutists were found dead on the runway. Then it says landed near the runway. Confusing use of landing. Did it mean the parachutists or the plane?
Says the men fell from the plane as it was landing near the runway. Landing near the runway; why ?
Just a terrible confusion of conflicting statements.
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#4573036 - 06/28/21 04:07 PM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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The Sun doesn't do journalism, it does attention grabbing scare mongering hackery designed to sell papers by getting emotions (usually anger/fear/disgust/etc) going. Inaccuracies are just part and parcel of it.
I firmly believe that news outlets should be forced to publish retractions and corrections on the same page with the same prominence as the original article. So if Newspaper X publishes a front page story saying "Mr Y is a horrible whatsit", and it turns out Mr Y is not, in fact, a horrible whatsit the next front page will be a retraction and apology. I'm pretty confident that would improve accuracy standards very quickly. +1 I'm sure everyone remembers the Air National Guard/Bush story fiasco from "60 Minutes".
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#4573042 - 06/28/21 04:21 PM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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I'm sure everyone remembers the Air National Guard/Bush story fiasco from "60 Minutes". Right alongside the bungled Trump interview by Lesley Stahl
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#4573043 - 06/28/21 04:22 PM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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Ok. Let’s try to leave the overt political issues out of it.
Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
Someday your life will flash in front of your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
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#4573044 - 06/28/21 04:24 PM
Re: Journalism fail - Parachute accident
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Says parachutists were found dead on the runway. Then it says landed near the runway. Confusing use of landing. Did it mean the parachutists or the plane?
Says the men fell from the plane as it was landing near the runway. Landing near the runway; why ?
The quality of journalism graduates has declined immensely--I blame smartphone texting technology.
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