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#4572257 - 06/19/21 05:25 PM Problem after reinstalling WoFF  
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Hello

I have a technical problem.

After the drive failed, I replaced it with a new one. I reinstalled WoFF, entered the serial number, and installed patch 1.13.
The game works, I created a new pilot character. I choose a scenario. And then…
A board appears - LOADING, three characteristic dots and the message: "Game terminated prematurely".

Maybe the next Win 10 updates are to blame for this? While loading, there is an option to take game dumps or capture / record it (which was not there before). Could this cause a conflict?

greetings

#4572273 - 06/19/21 09:31 PM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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You should have posted this under the Technical Issues thread up above for OBD to see this quicker.


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#4572298 - 06/20/21 12:54 PM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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Could be lots of reasons, but probably no DirectX 9 installed. See the WOFF BH&H II FAQ section 2A.

Also see https://SimHQ.com/forum/ubbthreads....ging-on-first-run-of-the-day#Post4479133

Otherwise, we'd need all the log files etc as per the last 2 pages of the WOFF BH&H II FAQ (see web support page) sending to Support via email.

Last edited by Polovski; 06/20/21 12:55 PM.

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Polovski,
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#4572443 - 06/22/21 09:31 AM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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Hello

Problem has been solved.
After the last Win 10 update, I had a problem with the disk. Replacing, reinstalling the game ... Result - see above.

I have WoFF II. It turned out, however, that the problem is not with the simulation, but with Win 10.


I reached for advice on the WoFF forum.

1. Install MCFS 3
2. we install patch 3.1 to it
3.Let's shortcut MCFS 3 on the desktop - MCFS 3 "Run as Administrator"
4. Install WOFF II
5.We install patch 1.13 (or newer)

6.We install the latest Direct X from the Microsoft website
7. Install Microsoft Visual C ++ from the manufacturer's website in 64 bit version.

The simulation works for me with full settings.

Greetings

#4572453 - 06/22/21 12:09 PM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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That's good to hear that WOFF BH&H II worksnow.
In the future, if you ever have to do a full re-install WOFF BH&H II again from the beginning, it is not necessary to install MSCFS3. The WOFF will run without it.

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#4572472 - 06/22/21 03:45 PM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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Good you are working again Taal. Yes as Robert says you do not need CFS3 installing.

But the step 3, is what may have helped. Instead, just do

1. Uninstall WOFF first if it's installed and broken. See section 17 Of the WOFF BH&H II FAQ (found on our website Support page) for the correct way
2. Install WOFF BH&H II
3 Install patch 1.13 (or newer)
4 Install the latest Direct X from the Microsoft website Actually you can do this via our \WOFF\Toolbox\DX9Redist folder as this IS the correct DX9 files to use as it's the FULL release.
5. [optional not need for many people]; Go to where WOFF is installed, browse the WOFF folder as per section 54 of the WOFF BH&H II FAQ and ...
Set Cfs3.exe to run as administrator - to do this go to the \OBDWW1 Over Flanders Fields\ folder in the WOFF install and find cfs3 executable. Right click on it, choose Properties, Compatibility, and tick/check "run this program as administrator". Apply, OK.

The MS C++ runtimes are installed during the main BH&H II install.


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Wings Over Flanders Fields and Wings Over The Reich
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#4572617 - 06/24/21 09:10 AM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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Hello

Thanks for the thorough explanation. For now, I have a working system and I am happy about it.
My mistake was that I named the game WOFF II - the correct name is WoFF BH&H 2

However, I was surprised that there is no need to install CFS 3.

As I found out, the game had many modifications:

1. OFF1
2. OFF2
3. OFF3
4. OFF3 BH&H
5. WOFF1
6. WOFF2
7. WOFF3
8. WOFF PE
9. WOFF UE
10 WOFF BH & H2

As Panama Red wrote:
"IIRC, items 1-7 required you to install CFS3 on your PC, because the mod used some of the CFS3 game. Starting with item 8 to 10 you only have to own a copy of CFS3 for legal purposes since this technically a mod of CFS3 and this keeps Micro $ oft off OBD's backs ”.

As a new client who didn't know the whole story, I had the right to get lost.

However, on the official websites of WOFF, I read that "some players use CFS 3 downloaded from generally available or free websites. It's not recommended, but it supposedly works. "
So now I have on my PC (for legal purposes?) a free, free but unnecessary simulator from World War II.

Okay, you don't want to eat. Let him lie down.

greetings

#4572622 - 06/24/21 10:35 AM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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You put that phrase in quotes to suggest it's word-for-word off the website, but we did not say it like that, and do not say you need to install it. Yes that was from when it was needed it to allow WOFF to install, which is no longer required - so I will remove it anyway.

Also just above that section we say in bold:

NOTE: You are required to own Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 3 so you own a license legally. CFS3 disk is no longer physically required to install or play WOFF UE, PE, or BH&H II.


There is a FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) document that goes over exactly how to install and what is required.
It's available on the same page you read about the requirements.

https://www.overflandersfields.com/index_html_files/FAQ_WOFF_BH&HII.pdf

Last edited by Polovski; 06/24/21 10:38 AM.

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#4572624 - 06/24/21 11:28 AM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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Hello

A / Now everything is clear. In fact, I used quotation marks, although this is not a literal recall of these words. I just wanted to make sense of how I understood it.
You are right, as you write, it's best to make it clear that installing CFS 3 in WOFF BH&H II is no longer necessary.


B / There was a problem - after the fight (Quick Combat) there was no summary of the game. Detriment. The WIN 10 screen has appeared.

But today I went on a mission, fought, shot down Nieuport 17. Squadron returned to the airport, landed.
I pressed CTRL + Q, then Enter, and .... blue WIN 10 reappeared.
I checked - this trip is not in my flight book.
Tips?

greetings

#4572636 - 06/24/21 02:00 PM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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Dropping to desktop usually means memory issue or CPU overheat.
See the FAQ section 6

Also try setting CSF3.exe and WOFF.exe to run as an administrator.

from section 17 of the FAQ:

13. For some Windows 10 users, try setting compatibility of WOFF.exe and CFS3.exe to Windows 7 SP1, or Windows 8/ 8.1. To do this go to your WOFF install folder, find WOFF and CFS3 executables. Right click on CFS3.exe and choose Properties, Compatibility, then under ‘compatibility mode’ section select/tick the box to “Run this program in compatibility mode”. Choose windows 7 for example, and click Apply, OK. Test, if it doesn’t help try setting to Windows 8 instead, or try the same setting on WOFF.exe.
14. if the steps in 13. do not work then undo the compatibility setting, but also try setting them to “run this program as an Administrator” instead from that compatibility tab, and click Apply, OK and test again.


Regards,

Polovski,
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Wings Over Flanders Fields and Wings Over The Reich
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#4572644 - 06/24/21 03:00 PM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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Hello

Thanks for such a quick reply.

I wonder if, for me, it would be easier to uninstall the game and reinstall it, omitting the unnecessary CFS 3? Maybe the program will be more stable because of this? After having problems with the disk, I only have one successful mission behind me. I will revive my flier from the file explorer.

I must admit that I am just an ordinary user of programs ... I entrust the delving into their interior to my colleague.

greetings

#4572716 - 06/25/21 09:16 AM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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Hello

After reading your text, I did it step by step as you wrote.
It turned out to be easier than I thought.
I checked the simulations in both Quick Battle and in two missions. Everything works fine - both manual and automatic.

One conclusion from this - read, read and read again! ( WoFW FAQ )
The fact that I am not from the English-speaking zone may be an excuse. Technical texts are a bit of an obstacle for me.


Regards, thank you for your patience.

#4573793 - 07/06/21 09:20 AM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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Good to know.

On the list
1. OFF1
2. OFF2
4. OFF3 BH&H
5. WOFF1
6. WOFF2 expansion
7. WOFF3 expansion
(also 3 smaller add-ons were released for WOFF above)
8. WOFF UE
9. WOFF PE expansion
10 WOFF BH&H II



Regards,

Polovski,
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Wings Over Flanders Fields and Wings Over The Reich
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http://www.wingsoverthereich.com
#4573798 - 07/06/21 11:45 AM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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Pol,:
Thanks, I forgot OFF3 was BH&H I. thumbsup


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#4573820 - 07/06/21 02:06 PM Re: Problem after reinstalling WoFF [Re: Taal]  
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No worries there have been a few biggrin


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Wings Over Flanders Fields and Wings Over The Reich
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