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#4540280 - 10/10/20 08:12 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Yeah, increasingly as time goes on, "Windows" and "logic" have less to do with one another...

As for the gaming mode, well...I never tested it or even tried it. I've built probably 25-30 gaming machines on Windows 10 by now, and I don't think I've ever set that button from whatever the default is. That's not to say that the person who ultimately took the machine hasn't changed it, but I don't remember it ever coming up.

Just think, by not turning this on, I could be missing out on doubling performance, free, just because Windows includes a 'gaming mode'...

Cr@p. I gotta call all those people...

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#4540282 - 10/10/20 08:32 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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No worries. The default is on. Your reputation remains intact. Unless "off" is the better setting. Don't forget Windows and logic. I wonder what operating system Vulcans are using on their Tricorders? I'm sure they didn't use the Starfleet standard issue devices.


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#4540286 - 10/10/20 09:06 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: Fullofit]  
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Originally Posted by Fullofit
No worries. The default is on. Your reputation remains intact. Unless "off" is the better setting. Don't forget Windows and logic. I wonder what operating system Vulcans are using on their Tricorders? I'm sure they didn't use the Starfleet standard issue devices.


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LOL Well, whatever the Vulcans are using, I think it's a pretty darn safe bet Microsoft won't be allowed to touch it biggrin biggrin biggrin

#4540289 - 10/10/20 09:32 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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I'm not so sure about that. The Vulcans and Microsquish both practice the same philosophy: "Live long and prosper".

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#4540299 - 10/10/20 10:03 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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You mean "Live long and profit?

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#4540302 - 10/10/20 10:11 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Indeed. It's only logical.

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#4540313 - 10/10/20 11:08 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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You would think though that by the 23rd century Windows would have come up with something to replace the BSOD. You would also think that Starfleet ships would have proprietary software.

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#4540320 - 10/10/20 11:47 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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LOL biggrin biggrin biggrin

#4540382 - 10/11/20 05:02 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Another update for those interested. After running about thirty more benchmarks this AM with different W10 items switched on and off, and with various background programs also switched on and off, I have seen no real difference in the overall performance of the updated system. 3DMark scores range between the high score of 30727 and a low score of 30329, with no pattern that I can see related to the aforementioned items either on or off. My conclusion at this point is that the usual tweaks I've done in the past don't seem to matter with this build combination. I also looked a bit more closely at the online 3DMark Top 100 FireStrike scores for the i5-10600K CPU and it is an interesting list. If you discount the multiple entries for the same user testing the same set-up repeatedly, the GPU spread looks to be as follows:

3090..................1
3080................23
2080 Ti............19
2080 Super.......1
2080.................2
1080 Ti x2........2
1080 Ti.............1
1080 x2............1
Titan X..............1

2070 Super x2...1 (my set-up)

My results are still in 4th place with the cards above me being two 3080s and one of the 1080 Ti SLI set-ups. I'm betting the person who popped for that lone 3090 is none-to-pleased with the list. nope

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#4540472 - 10/12/20 07:35 AM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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On an unrelated note, those with moderately-capable rigs, or lower, might want to disable "game bar monitoring" in their Win10 setups to squeeze out a few more FPS in WOFF and other sims. (not the game bar itself in case you use that to record in some sims., but simply the monitoring part - requires a registry tweak indicated under the relevant section at this link):

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-and-remove-game-bar-windows-10-creators-update

(Look for "How to disable XBox game monitoring" on that page, for the relevant info.)

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#4541273 - 10/18/20 12:06 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Good tip VonS, no point in letting something run in the background that you never use.

It's been a bit more than a week of testing and general WOFF enjoyment and the new rig is still proving itself to be a beast. I also just checked the 3DMark results to see where I was on the rankings and with another 175 new results posted, mainly 3080s and 3090s, I am still in the top ten, currently number seven: 3DMark FireStrike Benchmark Results

Not too shabby! smile

#4541349 - 10/18/20 11:19 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Lou,

I'd be very curious as to your Cinebench score as that test, if I understand it correctly, is mostly a measure single core performance.

#4546594 - 11/30/20 02:10 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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I've just now checked the Fire Strike benchmarks at 3DMark and with nearly a thousand new results posted since early October for the i5-10600K CPU, my new rig is still way at the top, currently ranked 11th on the leader board out of 2,308. So it seems apparent at this point that an SLI pair of the 'old' 2080 Supers can certainly keep up with the latest 30xx series cards. Sweet!

Epower, I have not run Cinebench, however the single cores in my new rig are consistently running a solid 5.00 to 5.05 GHz under load without issue, and stay well within safe temps thanks to the Arctic Super Cooler.

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#4546615 - 11/30/20 06:26 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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I have a 10600k with a 2080Ti, I may give the bench a whirl if I get a chance but I see there are 3 firestrike benchmarks, the first only runs at 1920x1080 have you tried any others Lou?

Maybe the 3080 would start to leave the 2xxx series more in higher res/4K benchmarks or when the benchmark tools use the newer Nvidia raytracing etc (I haven't looked into that though).

I read briefly for example 4K is fine on a 2080TI, and raytracing is fine, just not at the same time wink - 3080 does both.


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#4546617 - 11/30/20 06:32 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Lou - Good news that the cores hold 5.00 GHz for the entire time. I imagine your rig should handle anything that WOFF 2021 can throw at you.
I'm curious about the Cinebench score as that would be an apples to apples single core comparison with the latest and greatest from both team Red and Team Green.

I'm currently sitting on a stack of cash, gnashing my teeth about the lack of availability of the new AMD Ryzen CPUs, and GPUs, and any news of future availability. Vapor Launch despite AMD's protests to the contrary. Time for a sternly worded email...

#4546619 - 11/30/20 06:40 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Pol, my monitor is a 34" curved wide screen, 2560x1080. For folks running 4K I imagine this is where the 30xx series cards will really show their worth. This, and possibly in running games that now support ray tracing, though the 2080 Super also has ray tracing. For me, since I do not run 4K and likely won't be any time in the foreseeable future, (and since I only play WOFF), I personally did not see the need to spend extra funds on a 30xx card. To each their own! smile2

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#4546621 - 11/30/20 06:43 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Epower, you snuck in while I was posting. If I get some free time I will look into running Cinebench. As for that sternly worded email, you best get busy, WOFF 2021 is on the way.
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#4546643 - 11/30/20 08:02 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Yeah likely the higher res it may differ, but pointless if you never use it at those res as you say. Exactly each to their own indeed in this lark wink


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#4571552 - 06/11/21 11:12 PM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Just thought id jump on here has i've just sorted a new build. All scores are stock settings

RTX 3070, Ryzen 5 5600x

Graphic score 35476 Graphic test 1 172.04 fps Graphic test 2 139.79 fps

Physic score 25065 Fps 79.57

Combined score 13861..64.47fps

Overall score 29120

Cost a little over 1500 quid,(GPU prices are scandalous) sold a Cpu, Mb,16 GB of mem and a GTX 1070 for £620 so..900 quid.

Gaming at 1440p it smashes everything out of the water, it's a phenomenal rig

Just wanted to say that the Ryzen Chips are the Mutts nuts there rapid, with low power usage compared to comparable Intel chips i'd massively recommend them. Hope you're enjoying your system Lou, cheers

Edit: @Epower Cinebench R20 gives the Ryzen chip a score of 4273


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#4574010 - 07/09/21 02:21 AM Re: OT (sort of): Computer Upgrade in Anticipaaa-yaaa-tion of WOFF 2020 [Re: RAF_Louvert]  
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Well, I've just perused all 3 pages and my head is spinning. It doesn't help that I spent all day trying to sort out Social Security & Medicare options, plus over an hour on the phone with an insurance company about damages done to the house during a refrigerator delivery, and then a Pension Benefit Guarantee Board call-hold-wait about a form that wouldn't take the value I was told to enter... And two of the grandkids (3 & 5) were here for a couple of hours...

See, it's time. 25 scheduled working days remaining. And I have an ancient rig kept alive by the 1080Ti and 4.1GHz and plenty of RAM (at least for WOFF - see siggie). But it's time. The old monitor doesn't like HDMI input; I'd like to start there. Chips are still in short supply, so no sense jumping in with both feet. There's time (hopefully) this winter to sort out full upgrade details. And I'll move to my own thread if you'd prefer, Lou. But one thing- I'll probably still consult, so I'd like this new monitor to accept an input from whichever computer I hook it up to, hopefully without a KVM switch - just like your TV, shouldn't you be able to choose your source with your monitor? The work laptop is a Micro$oft Surface book - the big one. My room currently looks like some kind of control room, my laptop, my desktop and 3 monitors,a total of 4 screens, my wife hates it! So some streamlining on retirement is to be forthcoming, and we will both be ecstatic - and maybe I can sort out the new key assignments and get back in the air with you guys!

So who's making good monitors these days? What sort of specs should I be looking at?


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