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#4569706 - 05/23/21 11:07 PM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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#4569712 - 05/24/21 12:23 AM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Food for thought for those who have replied:

"Why are all the UFOs different? Why so many? Why aren't they all the same model?"

Well, consider this...

What if there are a lot more alien civilizations out there than we can imagine? Perhaps the Earth has become some sort of side show exhibit, sort of like the dinosaur in the desert or the big chicken restaurant?

Then you have to wonder... who's selling the tickets?

#4569717 - 05/24/21 01:18 AM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Perhaps Military bases etc. are the only places with the technology to actually detect the UAP activity. It may be happening else where undetected.

#4569729 - 05/24/21 04:43 AM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
How do you know it is only military bases and targets and ignoring everything else? UFOs have been seen for 1000s of years.


Might be a product of our monkey thinking. Thousands of years ago, anything we saw we didn't understand was reported as Gods & demons. Later on anything we didn't understand was reported as miracles, saintly activity, angels visiting. Later on and anything we don't understand is reported as aliens. I think it's more a product of what we currently use to entertain ourselves with.

Anything us monkeys see that we don't understand, we'll call it magic with some conscious intent behind it. It's an evolutionary quirk. Monkeys who imagine that grass blown around by the wind is actually a lion moving it around tend to last longer over time smile

And I'm naturally suspicious when airforce base/military base locations with high magnification/unknown distance unclear footage is shown with no real perspective or parallax cues. A small thing moving around normally can easily look like a large thing moving around abnormally. Very easily.

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#4569735 - 05/24/21 08:31 AM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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I can't believe these 'experts' can't or won't see reality. It's almost like they have an agenda or something. I don't expect you to watch the whole video but you should.


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#4569741 - 05/24/21 10:26 AM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Chucky]  
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Originally Posted by Chucky
I can't believe these 'experts' can't or won't see reality. It's almost like they have an agenda or something. I don't expect you to watch the whole video but you should.


Lol, "peak stupidity" biggrin I like it.


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#4569743 - 05/24/21 10:30 AM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Well that turned into a "Let's bash Tucker" fest, leading to a check of the video posters politics, not too surprising.

If there are billions of something, are we to believe that only one contains something?

#4569749 - 05/24/21 11:12 AM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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I don't see what politics has to do with it. Thunderfoot is calling out the hyperbole of the MSM over this so called 'alien invasion' along with those 'experts'.

I see a parallel with flat earthers,breatharians,'ghost hunters' et al, all trying to sell you something.

All I see in that video is someone actually looking at the footage and explaining what is happening rather than exclaiming 'it must be aliens'.


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#4569752 - 05/24/21 11:32 AM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Chucky]  
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Originally Posted by Chucky
I don't see what politics has to do with it. Thunderfoot is calling out the hyperbole of the MSM over this so called 'alien invasion' along with those 'experts'.

I see a parallel with flat earthers,breatharians,'ghost hunters' et al, all trying to sell you something.

All I see in that video is someone actually looking at the footage and explaining what is happening rather than exclaiming 'it must be aliens'.



Bingo.


Look, it's not difficult to see the motive here by the news media. Traditional news media has been hit HARD by the fact that most consumers now get their news primarily online and often from sources besides the big cable and network news sources. They are desperately sensationalizing any story they can in order to drive up their ratings (ie keep their advertising money coming in.


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#4569753 - 05/24/21 11:54 AM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Chucky
I don't see what politics has to do with it. Thunderfoot is calling out the hyperbole of the MSM over this so called 'alien invasion' along with those 'experts'.

I see a parallel with flat earthers,breatharians,'ghost hunters' et al, all trying to sell you something.

All I see in that video is someone actually looking at the footage and explaining what is happening rather than exclaiming 'it must be aliens'.



Bingo.


Look, it's not difficult to see the motive here by the news media. Traditional news media has been hit HARD by the fact that most consumers now get their news primarily online and often from sources besides the big cable and network news sources. They are desperately sensationalizing any story they can in order to drive up their ratings (ie keep their advertising money coming in.



I love how you are more interested in the news media coverage than enlightening us what Fravor et al saw?

#4569754 - 05/24/21 12:40 PM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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What he saw was 'unidentified'. Just like the FA-18 footage of a 'UFO' that was in all probability a large bird. If you watch the video of that particular incident and still tell me it's a 'UFO' then I don't know what to say.

Go to the 5 minute mark of that video where the expert says that unexplained things were happening 'every day for a couple of years'. And yet there is no footage. How odd. If it was 'everyday' as he states then surely you would be there with your camera proving the existence of 'otherworldly events'. But all we get is out of focus evidence when it is presented.

I'd be interested if any of our real world pilots would go to around the 19min 50 sec mark in that video and tell me what they see. Are those aircraft position lights/anti-collision lights?


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So Fravor and 3 other aviators there during the incident saw a seagull. Case closed, thanks for your insight.

You have read his credentials right?

#4569757 - 05/24/21 12:58 PM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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This just proves that you never watched the video,I have nothing more to say. You obviously 'need to believe' whilst ignoring any evidence put before you to the contrary.


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#4569762 - 05/24/21 01:09 PM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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I have watched it. What proves I haven't seen it?

If you have read this thread you'll see how I stand about the subject, so I don't need to believe.

I am impressed you know better than all the pilots, radar operators, RIO's.

I'd personally be more likely to think it was a drone, albeit far more advanced than we know about. To suggest they saw a bird like you state is ignorant.

#4569766 - 05/24/21 01:15 PM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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I've read the whole thread, it's crazy. I'll leave you to it, good luck.

Oh,I never said I knew more than those pilots, I just looked at the evidence supplied by Thunderfoot. If you show me evidence and facts I tend to believe that.

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#4569769 - 05/24/21 01:26 PM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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So the pilots accounts are not evidence? Ok.

I live by the sea and just saw about 40 UFOs. Oops my bad, they are seagulls.

#4569785 - 05/24/21 04:23 PM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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My position is we don't know, and I'll happily review footage and evidence as it becomes available. Until we meet a living, breathing, alien in the flesh and shake their hand--or have definitive communications from them that can be proven to be of extraterrestrial origin(see the movie "Contact" for an example), the skeptic in me can't and won't definitively claim that aliens exist.

However, the sci-fi part of me wants them to because that'd be really cool and imply many nifty "sciency" things.


All footage is worth examining in the interim.

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I'm in no hurry for us to encounter a species that is technologically superior to us, and is very likely to be the apex predator of whereever it is that they come from.

#4569840 - 05/25/21 02:20 AM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Anyone, or thing, nice that comes to Earth will probably be destroyed as soon as possible, if we can do it.

Any apex predator of where ever it is that they come from might just be nice and if they are, will probably be destroyed as soon as possible if we can do it.

If there are such beings I would advise them to come in shooting. I really hope they do not.


#4569869 - 05/25/21 09:22 AM Re: UFO footage from USS Russell - declassified [Re: Chucky]  
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Originally Posted by Chucky
I can't believe these 'experts' can't or won't see reality. It's almost like they have an agenda or something. I don't expect you to watch the whole video but you should.




I see F-18's and seagulls. Plain as day. Let alone the flashing beacon lights...

Oh and as pointed out earlier, this advanced race seems to have a fascination with our military, and only our military...

Just one of many videos that clearly illustrates the lunacy that is being encouraged by the media.


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