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#4569249 - 05/20/21 04:19 PM Instant missions  
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Moved to the 160 sub forum wink

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#4571356 - 06/09/21 07:42 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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Is this approach valid for original games, DVD and perhaps GOG, or otherwise? Or is this technique limited to other versions of the game?

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#4571359 - 06/09/21 07:56 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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The procedure is required to get instant mission setups.


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#4571361 - 06/09/21 08:58 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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You can do this for Quick Start in GOG and other versions, sometimes labeled Instant Mission for the code group un official versions. And works as well in EAWPRO.

It hasn't really been a secret, its been know that the single player parameters set the quick start missions, but nobodys really mentioned it for awhile. I've updated my Help Site document to better reflect this option, and what more it really gives you:

https://eaw.neocities.org/missions.html#quickstart

#4571518 - 06/11/21 03:38 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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This can't be an error with all versions., that would be silly for v1.2 to be like that.

However, I do recall you mentioned 160 in the past can't start without first launching a single player mission first. In this case your saying to configure a single player mission.
eh.

#4571600 - 06/12/21 04:03 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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So you can't fix it in 160 by having the eaw.exe write a default eaw.ini with a default scenario?

#4571630 - 06/12/21 10:44 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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If you won't fix the issue (or even acknowledge it as a problem again), I guess I have to make a note of it and address users differently when they go to use 160, or just wait till they come to you.

No, I haven't run 160 in awhile, I had some strange DLL' pop up in other game data folders, that shouldn't be there. Still investigating. (I have to check the unzipped game and the download to see if its in it aswell)

I will be running just 12 and now soon EAWPRO again to test some stuff out.



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#4571643 - 06/13/21 05:11 AM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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I advise players to go to quick start/instant mission to see if all is well, once configured.....
I wouldn't keep using the old ini for install after install, errors seem to creep in now then. But It is unusual. Either way I tell users to let the game create a new ini for best measure.

Even copying in by notepad copy and paste, errors happen.

Is is possible to produce a msn saved mission file with the correct configuration? (Its late here so im not look around for info too much).
or do you need both ini setting and a saved mission file?


BTW, whats this 'ieframe.dll' doing in your \support folder in the 160MP download? (I haven't check the latest archive you provided) That DLL is the internet browser, or part of it.

#4571688 - 06/13/21 09:17 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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Jel, So you deleted all your posts and moved the original post to the 160 sub forum, to avoid the questions and the error you have in 160.

Pretty lame.

#4571714 - 06/14/21 01:39 AM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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Ok, you are unnecessarily escalating the animosity. Stop it now or I will.


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#4571734 - 06/14/21 12:53 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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So, I just ran a test, using fresh installs of 1.2, 1.26, 1.28e, and 160. I deleted the ini in all cases. I started the game, and in ALL instances got a P-51 for the instant mission. It's coded in to the exe, the info is held in the ini. It's always been this way, and has never changed. If you use an ini from a different version and it doesn't work, delete it and make a new one. Easy as pie.

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#4571862 - 06/15/21 06:19 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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As I pondered this question further today, I forgot the real purpose, LOL. The discussion was about how to get a SPECIFIC aircraft in the Instant/Quick mission, without actually needing to set up and fly a mission first. That way you could get a random Quick/Instant mission with a specific aircraft. Jel figured out exactly how far you had to go into the process t get the desired reaction; it was NOT because there is problem in any RELEASED exe, 1.0 to 1.60.

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#4571894 - 06/15/21 11:52 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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Thanks CJ for clearing all that up!

#4571899 - 06/16/21 12:56 AM Re: Instant missions [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Ok, you are unnecessarily escalating the animosity. Stop it now or I will.


Rather doubt that either participant was antagonistic. More likely that comments were mis-understood.

#4571912 - 06/16/21 07:56 AM Re: Instant missions [Re: MarkEAW]  
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Originally Posted by MarkEAW
Jel, So you deleted all your posts and moved the original post to the 160 sub forum, to avoid the questions and the error you have in 160.

Pretty lame.


How do you mis-understand this?

The original post that started this thread was helpful to all EAW players.
It could have been left as it was with no comment.
A possible problem with UAW160 was raised, and the comments deteriorated. So I moved it to the 160 forum.
Under the "armistice" after the creation of the two sub-forums VBH, MarkEAW and co are not supposed to post in the 160+ section. Conversely code group members are not supposed to post in the EAWPRO section. I don’t think Mark is specifically tied to the AAWPRO development. I think that is solely VBH’s system. I don’t believe Mark has any development role there.
Hence I moved the original post to the 160+ sub-forum to avoid the thread being diluted by the type of comments that MarkEAW made.
Mark has posted in the 160+ section, thereby breaking the armistice.

The issue is "the error you have in 160" which does not exist, and therefore does not need to be fixed.
None of the code group members have posted in the EAWPRO sub-forum.
Has Mark made it open season again? There is no open season by anyone for anyone. Any instance of uncivil behavior needs to be reported and let me deal with it.


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#4571913 - 06/16/21 08:11 AM Re: Instant missions [Re: RIBob]  
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Originally Posted by RIBob

Rather doubt that either participant was antagonistic. More likely that comments were mis-understood.


The term "pretty lame" was not misunderstood.


Heck, even paranoids have enemies.
#4571925 - 06/16/21 10:40 AM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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Ok, it has been addressed. Let’s put it down and proceed.


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#4571954 - 06/16/21 04:35 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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Originally Posted by MrJelly

Under the "armistice" after the creation of the two sub-forums VBH, MarkEAW and co are not supposed to post in the 160+ section. Conversely code group members are not supposed to post in the EAWPRO section.
Hence I moved the original post to the 160+ sub-forum to avoid the thread being diluted by the type of comments that MarkEAW made.
Mark has posted in the 160+ section, thereby breaking the armistice.

The issue is "the error you have in 160" which does not exist, and therefore does not need to be fixed.
None of the code group members have posted in the EAWPRO sub-forum.
Has Mark made it open season again?



WTH you talking about, I'm not regulated to not post in the 160 sub forum, that's perhaps your wishful thinking. The truth is hat forum division has nothing to do with me. I think you hit your head on something.

That had all to do with how you treated VBH, just like you treat me, terrible. Your a little, or more like a lot too touchy. You can dish crap out, however you can't take it though, even if its good spirited. Alright, I said stop it. That was unnecessary.


As far as the instant mission thread. I thought we where having a decent conversation about a issue you where having with 160, next thing I know, your calling in a moderator and jump ship with all your posts. You are mischaracterizing what happened.


I had said stop it or I would. So I am. Take a two week suspension and come back in a more congenial state of mind.

#4571970 - 06/16/21 06:39 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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Holy crap.


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#4571975 - 06/16/21 07:34 PM Re: Instant missions [Re: MrJelly]  
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The separation of the two systems was to keep posters from using either one as a method to criticize each system and get wrapped up in comparisons that only led to animosity.

It was never intended that people could not post in the other sub forum. It was only meant to keep each sub forum focused on that system alone.

People can post where they wish as long as in each sub forum the posts are focused on that system and not to mix them. Both sub forums hopefully could be civilI was hoping that would keep the bitter arguments from spilling into every thread. It was never meant to make fences to keep anyone corralled in or out of a sub forum.

Keep the issues of each sub forum restricted to that sub forum. Don’t mix the two. Keep comments about either of the sub forums out of the one not meant for it.

In the future I will eliminate any reference to either sub forum outside of its correct forum.

I was hoping people could do that themselves.



It isn’t that difficult or complicated. But if necessary I will put up a fence that will establish no cross sub forum posting at all. If that is preferred let me know in PM and I will take it under consideration.


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#4572022 - 06/17/21 09:14 AM Re: Instant missions [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
It isn’t that difficult or complicated. But if necessary I will put up a fence that will establish no cross sub forum posting at all. If that is preferred let me know in PM and I will take it under consideration.


Personally I'd like to keep it voluntary.

We've had a darn good track record for keeping the two groups separate but there was a recent example where I popped into the EAWPro subforum to address a question by a new member.

It went well and I was able to direct the member to the 1.6 subforum without any wailing or gnashing of teeth.

If you put up a fence I wouldn't be able to do that and I think that's a loss to the community.


Heck, even paranoids have enemies.
#4572026 - 06/17/21 10:14 AM Re: Instant missions [Re: MarkEAW]  
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Originally Posted by MarkEAW


BTW, whats this 'ieframe.dll' doing in your \support folder in the 160MP download? (I haven't check the latest archive you provided) That DLL is the internet browser, or part of it.



To provide some VB runtime files for some of the utility files there is the OAW150 runtime installer.
It is in the "OAW150Runtmes" folder, and this folder contains a "Support" folder, which includes the "ieframe.dll" among the back-up files.
It is there because an earlier version of OAW had internet links to the multiplayer sites that we used before we found GameRanger wink


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