#4568637 - 05/16/21 01:35 PM
Re: About Early Victories
[Re: vonBaur]
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RAF_Louvert
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BOC President; Pilot Extraordinaire; Humble Man
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L'Etoile du Nord
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. We'll have to agree to disagree folks on the idea of the claims setting of "normal" being random or not. I believe it is, others believe it is not, and that is quite fine. However, from my own experience, and it's been extensive as I've been enjoying this sim since the early OFF days, the claims awards are quite random. I've dug into the pilot files for the claims and have seen there that claims can be awarded or denied with very low probability numbers, (30 and under), and also awarded or denied with very high probability numbers (70 and above), with the same randomness throughout the scale. There is no apparent correlation at all between those probability numbers and the odds of having a claim either awarded or denied - none, nada, zip. Not a complaint of the system mind you, just an observation on my part based on over a decade of trying every conceivable combination when filling out the claims form in an effort to figure out what it's actually looking for when it decides whether to give you credit or not. I think it's a digital roll of the die somewhere deep inside the sim coding - 1, 3, or 5, denied; 2, 4, or 6, awarded. EDIT: CodyCoyote, our posts crossed in the cloud. I believe you're absolutely spot on with your analysis. EDIT TO EDIT: I will add, it's still a great immersive feature to be able to fill out a full claims report with all the detail and notes our little WWI combat aviation hearts desire. .
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#4568644 - 05/16/21 01:55 PM
Re: About Early Victories
[Re: vonBaur]
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Fullofit
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As far as I can tell the system only verifies your witness. If the pilot wasn’t flying at the time and you’ve quoted him as your witness that’s an automatic rejection. It may also reject claims if your witness died during that mission - would make sense, but I have no proof of that. I don’t think it even checks the type of plane you are claiming. So, the description is really for your own benefit, not the claims board. Spot on Cody.
"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys, The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain, From out of my arse take the camshaft, And assemble the engine again."
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#4568649 - 05/16/21 02:42 PM
Re: About Early Victories
[Re: vonBaur]
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Becker01
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Hallo,
at first: with "you must know what you write" I don't mean full sentences, a full text. I mean of course a witness of your flight, the right aeroplane and ... additionally a ground-unit, ballon, etc. I can't say, if the system "read" such hit-words (WOFF is global only in english or not?). I write it and I have no proof so far, that it is completely senseless.
Perhaps you are right, Cody, Fullofit and Lou. But what would it mean in consequence, when only witness and aeroplane are relevant and all the rest is random? It would mean, that the "normal claim" is only a joke! And that is the opposite of all, what I know from OBD. And ... if it is so easy, why must we discuss about it? @Pol and @Wlnder could confirm it with one short sentence!
Greetings
Last edited by Becker01; 05/16/21 02:44 PM.
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#4568653 - 05/16/21 03:11 PM
Re: About Early Victories
[Re: vonBaur]
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Fullofit
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Becker, normal claim is not a joke. It simply works in a different way than you may have expected. Why do we even discuss it? Because the question’s been asked and us being us, we like to discuss all things WoFF. Good and bad. BTW, you can do your own test. Write the descriptions in German and see what happens. Don’t write anything in there and see what happens. Write something irrelevant in there and see what happens. Then draw your own conclusion. We’ve done it and came to our conclusions.
"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys, The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain, From out of my arse take the camshaft, And assemble the engine again."
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