#4568120 - 05/11/21 10:39 PM
Re: I'll be damned !!
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No listening devices for me either.
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#4568121 - 05/11/21 11:08 PM
Re: I'll be damned !!
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I'll also never accept an active microphone in my home, so no Alexa for me. Some people are putting those things in their cars too. I'll never understand how those things got so popular. I can lock my own #%&*$# door and turn my own #%&*$# lights on and off, thank you.
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#4568128 - 05/12/21 12:20 AM
Re: I'll be damned !!
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The things that people think is ok just boggles my mind.
Alexa...Siri... Mary Ann muffin masher. The first guy with some kind of sexbot with Alexa's voice is rich...oh wait that will just make Bezos richer. None of the above EVER here.
Web cam. I have had teachers DEMAND I have a webcam, after enrolling and paying for the class. I cited privacy issues, they hemmed and hawed. I mentioned my proximity to graduation, they have all so far backed off.
We really need to start a class action against ALL the big tech guys. Why? For STEALING our information, profiting many BILLIONS off it, and not giving us a nickel for it.
My favorite recent one is how google et al is asking you to give them more info on you so they can personalize your ad experience!
and the sheep keep flocking.
Well excuse me, I have to go check insta-scam and have some complete phony whacko tell me what to do next!
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#4568132 - 05/12/21 01:08 AM
Re: I'll be damned !!
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How they do that? You no longer have to click send/submit/next, etc They can suck the info from the screen.
It certainly isn't anything new. I had it happen to me almost 20 years ago when I started to fill out an online loan application. Although I didn't submit it the bank still called me about it the next day. The guy admitted they get the info whether you submit it or not.
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#4568134 - 05/12/21 01:23 AM
Re: I'll be damned !!
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How they do that? You no longer have to click send/submit/next, etc They can suck the info from the screen.
It certainly isn't anything new. I had it happen to me almost 20 years ago when I started to fill out an online loan application. Although I didn't submit it the bank still called me about it the next day. The guy admitted they get the info whether you submit it or not. That should be criminal.
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#4568136 - 05/12/21 01:57 AM
Re: I'll be damned !!
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Our smartphones are listening to us, whether we like it or not. During the Cold War, a technical branch of the British intelligence services (MI6, I think), found a way to make an old-fashioned land-line phone into a listening device. So, no need for smart phones to eavesdrop.
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#4568143 - 05/12/21 05:29 AM
Re: I'll be damned !!
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Some people are putting those things in their cars too. I'll never understand how those things got so popular. I can lock my own #%&*$# door and turn my own #%&*$# lights on and off, thank you. The modern automobile has a data recorder, just like a commercial airplane's black box. Law enforcement, lawyers and government can petition the courts for access. If the car is WiFi capable, then hackers and the government can access the data at any time. It simply boils down to if 'they' think you are worth the man hours. This goes for any WiFi capable device. If it can talk 'communicate', or you can talk to it, someone can turn it on remotely and harvest the data. The lack of a mic and/or camera on a device only limits the data that can be mined. It is simply a low priory fish. If it is a computer that accesses the web, no cam or mic is only useful for making law enforcement prove there accusations the "old school" way. The best hackers can still access your HDD. Like a recent commercial for home security uses "every window is a potential doorway". Think I'll wrap myself in aluminum foil. Tin foil only works against analog. Your only defense against digital is to abstain or assimilate. Anything between is hoping your a bottom feeder, not worth there effort. (evil)
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#4568161 - 05/12/21 10:34 AM
Re: I'll be damned !!
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Excellent post Brit44.
I'm always amused by people who make flippant comments about "privacy" but yet have social media accounts, do all of their shopping online and use their smartphone on a constant daily basis.
Just wait until national governments get rid of physical currency and then ALL financial transactions will have a digital footprint. Oh, it's coming. It's just a matter of when.
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#4568166 - 05/12/21 12:41 PM
Re: I'll be damned !!
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Our smartphones are listening to us, whether we like it or not. During the Cold War, a technical branch of the British intelligence services (MI6, I think), found a way to make an old-fashioned land-line phone into a listening device. So, no need for smart phones to eavesdrop. And older, "non smart" cell phones could and would be used as listening devices. That spying stuff is old and goes way back.
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#4568179 - 05/12/21 02:45 PM
Re: I'll be damned !!
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There's also unintentional ease-dropping (all happened within last 5 years or so). Gotta call from my brother one afternoon... "Hello. HELLO!" He was talking to a grocery store cashier while checking out. I stay on the line as he's driving home, no more than 10 min., listening to what I believe was college radio. He gets home and starts talking to his wife. I give it one more shot as loudly as I could, still no response (and no, I wasn't tempted to keep listening...would have been so not cool). I hung up and called him back. His wife also butt called me once, heard a few seconds of their conversation about what's for dinner and I disconnected. My wife butt called me once from work while talking to some dude in her office...strictly accounting mumbo-jumbo. That was when I had a land line, since having been rerouted to my parent's apartment. I have only a flip phone now which is seldom turned on.
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