#4564796 - 04/17/21 11:52 AM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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I see there are Sheep calling us Selfish, I'm not getting the vaccine because I'm not a research experiment. Look up the possible side effects on all the different versions of the DNA therapy they are calling a vaccine. One possible side effect is sterility, you want to give that to your kid?
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#4564800 - 04/17/21 12:10 PM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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One possible side effect is sterility Got a source for that?
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#4564801 - 04/17/21 12:39 PM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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One possible side effect is sterility Got a source for that? I wouldn't hold your breath - It's nonsense.
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#4564820 - 04/17/21 03:08 PM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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One possible side effect is sterility Got a source for that? A couple friends in Healthcare said it and despite what Web MD or any other website suggests there have been deaths, miscarriages and other side effects that can be directly associated with the "vaccine". Maybe it's circumstantial but I'll wait to see what happens down the road. I don't trust the media anymore to be truthful.
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#4564833 - 04/17/21 04:00 PM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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One possible side effect is sterility Got a source for that? A couple friends in Healthcare said it ... The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.
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#4564839 - 04/17/21 04:33 PM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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I got my first dose of Moderna on February 1. Felt fine the first day, but my left Deltoid hurt like HE-double toothpicks the day after. Couldn't move my arm. Well, I could move it but I didn't want to. The pain subsided each day until it was gone four days after the shot.
My second was March 1. That time I made it a point to move my left arm around after the shot...lift straight out to the side, arm circles, anything to work the Delt. No problems the following days. And no other side effects from either one.
Yes, I've always had that foot growing out of my forehead. The toenails ARE new, though.
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#4564876 - 04/17/21 07:56 PM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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I just got back from getting my first Pfizer shot. So far, so good. Boy, getting a vaccine shot sure has changed since I was a kid. They had emotional support dogs, tons of nurses, firemen, and EMT's. Back in the late 1960's and early1970's you waited in a line in a hall out side the gym. Once you got in, some big nurse (usually named Helga) spun you around and jabbed you in the arm. Then she yelled, next! That was it. Our species overall has become quite wussified. It will not have good consequences down the road.
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#4564892 - 04/17/21 09:14 PM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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Maybe some side effects are not immediate. Long term effects are obviously unknown. I agree with this, and that´s why it´s a no go for me. Not only that, some experts in virus are saying that by the time a full country is vaccinated the virus will have already mutated so whatever vaccine you plugged into will be obselete. Personally, I think that the vaccine is only going to be good for four months. If I am proven wrong and protective antibodies are present after 6-12 months, that will be great. Better to be pessimistic and then be happily surprised. To many odd decisions with no logic at all have been taken around the world which contradict spokesman of any media. I don´t belive the media or politicians any more. Me and my wife had the virus some months ago, and we got over it. Only meds given to us by the state healthcare (Spain) were acetaminophen! Now we need a vaccine? Even more, if your vaccinated you still need to wear a mask? Makes no sense... The vaccine will only protect you; it won't protect anyone else. That is why they ask you to wear masks. The vaccine will (hopefully) prevent you from suffering severe outcomes like hospitalization or death. It does not protect you from getting infected. You can stil be as contagious as heck, after innoculation. There have been no reports that the virus is any weaker, due to innoculation. You will spread virus at 100% potency. There is a single report that believes a person who has been vaccinated and then infected will have a lower viral load, but it is a single report from a single country for a single vaccine, Pfizer. I think that 'herd immunity' is a bit of a misnomer, with regards to CoVid. Science News posted 2021-3-30 Unvaccinated people produce 2.58 to 4.5 times more virus than vaccinated people do, researchers report March 29 in Nature Medicine. Those data show vaccinated people have a lower “viral load” and are less likely to pass the coronavirus to others if they do become infected, but the effect is not as strong as might be hoped to truly limit transmission, Kilpatrick says. That reduction in viral load amounts to about an 11 percent decrease in infectiousness, he says. “That’s good … but you’d like to be half as infectious or three-quarters lower infectiousness.” https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-vaccine-moderna-pfizer-transmission-diseasehttps://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-may-reduce-transmissionIt is out of Israel and is only a single report for the Pfizer vaccine. CoVid vaccines only prevent the innoculated from severe outcomes, not actual infection. The innoculated can still carry and shed virus, thus there is little to no protection of others.
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#4564907 - 04/17/21 10:43 PM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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Boy, getting a vaccine shot sure has changed since I was a kid. They had emotional support dogs, tons of nurses, firemen, and EMT's. And could you imagine if anyone would have even suggested having an animal in the same room back then? The person would have been considered a complete loon.
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#4564927 - 04/18/21 01:17 AM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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The only vaccine I remember was in the Army in like 1976 or 1977. We were ORDERED to get a swine flu shot...Like do it or else, kinda made we wonder. But, luckily, nobody in our brilliant, critically brain dead theory, media might draw a comparison between that and now. Zero problems here with the shots...well, I never like J&J anyway, would have passed on theirs's (LONG story). I just wish I had got a buzz...
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#4564931 - 04/18/21 01:28 AM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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Herman:
"CoVid vaccines only prevent the innoculated from severe outcomes"
And that's a bad thing? Gonna cost me another $1 in gas to get my second one, I think I will roll the dice one more time.
Then I go back to schoolwork, boppin around on my new electric scooter (I love being scooter trash), and living free in Florida....grinning
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#4564934 - 04/18/21 01:42 AM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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I just got back from getting my first Pfizer shot. So far, so good. Boy, getting a vaccine shot sure has changed since I was a kid. They had emotional support dogs, tons of nurses, firemen, and EMT's. Back in the late 1960's and early1970's you waited in a line in a hall out side the gym. Once you got in, some big nurse (usually named Helga) spun you around and jabbed you in the arm. Then she yelled, next! That was it. Lol. I remember getting shots at school in the 70's from these bad boys...] The Army gave so many GI's Hepatitis C with those guns it was sickening! I remember all the blood and very "attentive" medics.
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#4564952 - 04/18/21 03:47 AM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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Herman:
"CoVid vaccines only prevent the innoculated from severe outcomes"
And that's a bad thing? Gonna cost me another $1 in gas to get my second one, I think I will roll the dice one more time. No, it's not a bad thing. It is important to recognize the realistic limited expectation for CoVid innoculation. They protect the innoculated and no one else. Of course, the innoculated will mostly avoid hospitalization and causing further stress on health care systems, thereby leaving more room for those who refuse vaccination.
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#4564954 - 04/18/21 04:41 AM
Re: 24 hrs. after Pfizer #2...
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One possible side effect is sterility Got a source for that? A couple friends in Healthcare said it ... The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'. I'm saying that's where I heard it from, Where they heard it I don't know, but I have serious misgivings about a vaccine from three different sources for something that I'm not worried about. I don't get Flu shots either.
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