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#4564712 - 04/16/21 10:40 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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I'll just leave this tidbit from Cinquante-Quatre here...

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#4564714 - 04/16/21 11:00 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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And here Epower, and all, is the tune to sing that little ditty to:




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#4564716 - 04/16/21 11:08 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Oh trust you to find the right ditty Lou!


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#4564717 - 04/16/21 11:23 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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This seems to be the best thing to do. Thread made, and now a pint and a singsong while the poor, harried ack-emmas - oops, I mean Devs - try to sort out the problem.

#4564719 - 04/16/21 11:42 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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A most sound course of action Mortuus. I'll have a pint'a stout to get my baritone voice primed.

And Robert, I always find the right ditty. It's a gift I have.

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#4564720 - 04/16/21 11:42 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Did some further testing on all german aircraft , for now i found 3 where i managed to destroy my own plane with the forward firing machinegun
Hannover CL III
DFW CV
Fokker EIV

#4564729 - 04/17/21 12:27 AM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Originally Posted by Hermani
Did some further testing on all german aircraft , for now i found 3 where i managed to destroy my own plane with the forward firing machinegun
Hannover CL III
DFW CV
Fokker EIV



Yep seems like there could be possible issues with some craft, im pretty certain that we wern't issued boomarang bullets Hermani duckhunter biggrin Hopefully the devs will take a look.


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#4564730 - 04/17/21 12:29 AM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Adger]  
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Hehe boomarang bullets that’s a good one Adger 😁

#4564752 - 04/17/21 02:12 AM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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When everyone said that the air war in BHaH2 got more deadly, they weren't kidding!

#4564755 - 04/17/21 03:25 AM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Following the FAQ by the letter.... all the way down to deleting the user app data per the description and so-forth...

This morning, I did a detailed uninstallation and a clean re-installation of WOFF BH&H2 for unrelated key-binding holdovers from the previous install.

After seeing this thread, I realized I was in a perfect position attempt observation the same issue described above with the Hannover damaging itself with the forward MG.

I report that firing the forward machine gun did indeed damage my aircraft as well during a mission in QC.

Further notes: I flew only one mission in QC. Not every burst, regardless of duration, damaged my Hannover. It appeared to be intermittent in nature.

It may be that the same types of AI aircraft will experience the same problem when they fire their forward guns.

I have not yet tested the other aircraft above listed by Hermani.

I hope these aircraft are fixed very soon.


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#4564784 - 04/17/21 10:23 AM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: J5_Lehmann]  
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Originally Posted by J5_Lehmann



It may be that the same types of AI aircraft will experience the same problem when they fire their forward guns.

I have not yet tested the other aircraft above listed by Hermani.

I hope these aircraft are fixed very soon.



That’s a good point regarding the AI aircraft Lehman I never thought of that.


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#4564793 - 04/17/21 11:37 AM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Thanks guys, we will look into those.


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#4564799 - 04/17/21 12:05 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted by Polovski
Thanks guys, we will look into those.


Thanks Pol cheers


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#4564802 - 04/17/21 12:40 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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BTW have those that see this adjusted the gun accuracy in workshops 'more settings' under 'Main Guns' ?


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#4564803 - 04/17/21 12:46 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Originally Posted by Hermani
Hi everyone, today i took the hannover for a little test flight in quick combat. When i used the forward machine gun it registered bullet hits on my own aircraft.
After a couple of firing turns it even disabled my plane so it went out of control. Anyone else who has experienced something like this?




BTW is this BH&H II Herman or UE or PE?
What Mian Gun accuracy settings in Workshop ?


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#4564804 - 04/17/21 12:47 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted by Polovski
BTW have those that see this adjusted the gun accuracy in workshops 'more settings' under 'Main Guns' ?


Hi Pol. Mine were set to normal/default.

#4564805 - 04/17/21 12:54 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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My apologies Pol. I meant to also say that I'm using BH&H2.

#4564809 - 04/17/21 01:31 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted by Polovski
Originally Posted by Hermani
Hi everyone, today i took the hannover for a little test flight in quick combat. When i used the forward machine gun it registered bullet hits on my own aircraft.
After a couple of firing turns it even disabled my plane so it went out of control. Anyone else who has experienced something like this?




BTW is this BH&H II Herman or UE or PE?
What Mian Gun accuracy settings in Workshop ?

Hi Pol,
I am flying in BH&H II , main gun accuracy is set to less accurate and players gun set to normal.
Hope this helps you some bit further. I tested some other allied planes but I havent found any other aircraft with this problem yet.

#4564811 - 04/17/21 01:55 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Same has J5,s Pol..BHaH II and guns normal.


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#4564819 - 04/17/21 03:05 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Just out of interest I thought I'd try the Hannover, DFW and Fokker EIV in a vanilla install of BHAH II without either of the two patches in case one of the patches had thrown things out.

All three damaged themselves when the front guns were fired.

I tried the Rumpler and the Roland and really threw them around the sky firing and they were ok.

So it appears to be specific aircraft and on the basic sim, not patches.


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