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#4564609 - 04/16/21 03:49 PM Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun  
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Hi everyone, today i took the hannover for a little test flight in quick combat. When i used the forward machine gun it registered bullet hits on my own aircraft.
After a couple of firing turns it even disabled my plane so it went out of control. Anyone else who has experienced something like this?
I tested some other aircraft and the Nieuport 27 had also some occasional hits on my own plane but not as bad as the Hannover. With other aircraft i already flew I didnt have any of this.
Of course I did not yet try each of the 80 flyables.
Thank you for any input on this.

#4564671 - 04/16/21 07:46 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Any mods on ?

Any mods used and removed later ?

Sry to say but a clean install usually clears this up


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#4564685 - 04/16/21 08:53 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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I am flying BH&H2 with the latest patch installed. I did not use any mods yet.Would be weird that my install is already corrupted on this short time.
But you never know , I haven’t started a serious campaign yet so I might give it a try .

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#4564687 - 04/16/21 08:57 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Maybe some BH&H 2 user can be so kind and do a quick flight with the Hannover to test if this problem only occurs with my install? Thx

#4564690 - 04/16/21 09:13 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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I don’t think your install is knackered. I had a go in the Eindecker E.IV the other day and experienced the same thing. Thought of Immelmann, but now I see it’s not historical accuracy after all.


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#4564691 - 04/16/21 09:15 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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I did a QC with the Hannover but everything seesm to be working as intended on my end. No damage sustained with forward MG.

#4564692 - 04/16/21 09:18 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Perhaps this is a new type of random mechanical failure the devs have added in BH&HII, like the engine failures? If so, I am looking forward to when I'm able to pick up the new expansion and experience the perils of the 'Syncopated Fire Control' for myself! This certainly puts another complexion on my plan to start with a DH2 squadron - without a synchronised machinegun to potentially fail, I simply wouldn't be getting my full money's worth out of the new software! wink

#4564694 - 04/16/21 09:20 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: ArisFuser]  
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Thank you ArisFuser, I will try to look for what went wrong with my install.
Greetings

#4564695 - 04/16/21 09:28 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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It does damage the wings on stock without MODS. But it's at certain angles of the rear gun. When you point at your wings, you have to move it around and just at right spot to damage your wings.
Edit: Haha... senile moment. I didn't read it right. I tested the rear gun instead of the forward one.

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#4564696 - 04/16/21 09:29 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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I just did a QC and fired ..showed heavy damage 4d to repair ?? so something does seem off imo ..Maybe some other flyers could do a test it'd take 5-10 mins tops

Edit sorry if i misunderstand Orbxp ..its the forward firing gun (haven't tested rear gunner)

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#4564698 - 04/16/21 09:43 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Has anyone determined which machines this happens with?


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#4564699 - 04/16/21 09:46 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Fullofit]  
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Originally Posted by Fullofit
I don’t think your install is knackered. I had a go in the Eindecker E.IV the other day and experienced the same thing. Thought of Immelmann, but now I see it’s not historical accuracy after all.



Just tested the E.IV and didn't show any damage from my end Fullofit. cheers


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#4564700 - 04/16/21 09:49 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Has anyone determined which machines this happens with?


I suppose every machine would have to be tested mate to determine that. I've tested the E.IV just and it didn't show any damage but the Hannover for me did thumbsup


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#4564702 - 04/16/21 09:56 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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This time I tested the forward gun in the Hannover and got no damage when firing forward gun while engine stopped sitting on field or flying in air.

#4564703 - 04/16/21 09:59 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Hm so there is something strange going on after all. If I find the time I will test some other aircraft. I did try the Rumpler already for example and that forward machine gun fired without any problem for me.

#4564704 - 04/16/21 10:03 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Tested forwards gun again, did some jinking..fired about 300 rds and shot MYSELF down. No mods on, and TAC shows bullet strike cheers


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#4564707 - 04/16/21 10:21 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Hermani]  
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Quick last one for now..Just did number 3 and 4 QC flights 1st one straight and level fired 500rds no damage, 2nd flight 500rds banking left/right firing and Light damage 2d to repair .

To sum up 1st flight heavy damage 4d (straight and jinking) 2nd. flight 300rds and shot myself down banking left/right..3rd flight straight and level no damage.. 4th flight Light damage banking left/right


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Sounds like we need the Devs on this one. Jinking around or heavy banking may be having an effect on bullet trajectory, but that's out of my league. Just throw grenades for now!

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#4564709 - 04/16/21 10:28 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Adger]  
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Thx for helping out Adger. Maybe a dev can help us out and tell if this is intentional or what is going on 😉👍

#4564711 - 04/16/21 10:39 PM Re: Own aircraft gets damaged from forward machine gun [Re: Robert_Wiggins]  
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Originally Posted by Hermani
Thx for helping out Adger. Maybe a dev can help us out and tell if this is intentional or what is going on 😉👍



No worries mate, yep im no expert in WW1 trajectorys so it could be how it was


Originally Posted by Robert_Wiggins
Sounds like we need the Devs on this one. Jinking around or heavy banking may be having an effect on bullet trajectory, but that's out of my league. Just throw grenades for now!



Definitely needs clearing up mate, hopefully Pol il chip in..I'd still miss if i threw a grenade inside an enemy cockpit mate biggrin


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