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#4563212 - 04/08/21 05:51 PM I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II  
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...over at combat ace if anyone wants to see. burnout


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#4563213 - 04/08/21 05:55 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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Any reason why you can't post results here also?

#4563214 - 04/08/21 05:57 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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well aren't we suppose to be moving over there? neaner
Plus I typed it all out!! #%&*$# lazy fellow I am! LOL (though I could copy and paste I suppose)


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#4563216 - 04/08/21 05:58 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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Oh I didn't know that..

#4563219 - 04/08/21 06:19 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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To get a true comparison you would need to do a clean install of both on the same PC. No mods or file alterations in either sim.

Just to be safe, Each should be installed tested then uninstalled separately. They should not co-exist at the same time while testing.

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#4563220 - 04/08/21 06:24 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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Indeed, but like I explained in the rationale, I wanted to compare exactly what I had to exactly what I was getting -- and posted it as it may be useful to others. smile

And no, they didn't co-exist in the testing (indeed I don't believe you can do that anyway - but good to point out as Pol has mentioned not having both co-exist). Tested, uninstalled, installed, tested.

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#4563237 - 04/08/21 08:04 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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Why are we all supposed to be moving to Combat Ace?
Maybe my wife told me and, as usual, evidently I missed something?

#4563238 - 04/08/21 08:20 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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to sum up did you find BHAH2 faster?

#4563245 - 04/08/21 08:40 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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He didn't as far as I can work out... because of all the extra goodies that we get with BH&H2, that all comes with a price (from Winders)

#4563251 - 04/08/21 08:53 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Wodin]  
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Originally Posted by Wodin
to sum up did you find BHAH2 faster?


Nope. I personally lost 26.5% fps - but please see original post for methodology/rationale/procedure/detailed results, etc.

https://combatace.com/forums/topic/95993-benchmark-comparisons-bhh-ii-vs-pe/

And I thought the developers called CombatAce their old/new home? -- well, Winder posts there now anyway (and Pol seems to travel back-and-forth). idk, I am drifting back-and-forth too, lol.


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#4563253 - 04/08/21 09:01 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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am drifting back-and-forth too,


That's it... we can now be part of 'Drifter Squadron' biggrin

#4563254 - 04/08/21 09:04 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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I thought that we moved here from Combat Ace ?

#4563257 - 04/08/21 09:10 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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I read on combat ace about a mod that improves the framerate but there was no link. Does anyone have a link to the mod for BHAHII.

#4563259 - 04/08/21 09:10 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: carrick58]  
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Originally Posted by carrick58
I thought that we moved here from Combat Ace ?


Yes but we are back there again dizzy

(The ambiance is much nicer there though, at least - a very purdy looking forum)


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#4563261 - 04/08/21 09:20 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Racingfan]  
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Originally Posted by Racingfan
I read on combat ace about a mod that improves the framerate but there was no link. Does anyone have a link to the mod for BHAHII.


That was Vons,s mod and previously Panama Red both for WOFF UE/PE..There isn't one currently for BHaH II mate I reckon VonS is tinkering away on something though.


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#4563264 - 04/08/21 09:32 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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As a quick aside I can say that BHAHII is running noticeably smoother on my 6 year old system than PE did. Frame rate seems to dip more often, but it doesn't... dare I even *say* the word... stutter... when it does. So yeah, dogfighting, looking around, all of it, feels a lot nicer, and I'm running a modest rig: 2015 era i7, 16GB RAM, 1050ti. Super, super impressed so far and I've jumped in everything from a Bristol Scout in January of 1915 to a Pfalz DIII in March 1918. All good so far!

#4563267 - 04/08/21 09:39 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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My post to Redwolf from CA.Copied and pasted below..


"Good post RedWolf..My 2p,s worth..my fps is down say 5% but it feels a hell of a lot smoother, Trackir is smooth as silk, looks visually much much better. Also ive noticed that from campaign to flight screen is waaayyy quicker, wonder if the scenery draws in quicker now and thats why to me it seems "smoother"

Love everything about it, the Scenery, goggles Skins, Music+Sounds ..still in training so haven't had my Ar$e handed to me yet by the AI eek

Absolutely phenomenal work ..BH&H II and WOTR really do have an exciting future ahead. "


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#4563268 - 04/08/21 09:48 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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Ok, I had Vons previously. I have yet to upgrade to BHAH II. I'm torn this month if I want the DCS F-18 to fly with friends when the new update drops or if I want BHAH II (where I had some config issues getting the prior version up and running).

#4563274 - 04/08/21 10:24 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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Very early results are showing Von S Gpu tuner is at least partially, if not fully mitigating the fps loss with BHaH II (seeing a good trend) -- will do a full report on CA when I have it all done.


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#4563275 - 04/08/21 10:34 PM Re: I did a benchmark comparison PE vs BH&H II [Re: Redwolf]  
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Originally Posted by Redwolf
Very early results are showing Von S Gpu tuner is at least partially, if not fully mitigating the fps loss with BHaH II (seeing a good trend) -- will do a full report on CA when I have it all done.


Looking forward to the results - also, if you find that the WOFF GPU Tuner patch ends up being a bit crusty in BHAH.II, try my WOTR GPU Tuner Patch in BHAH.II as well - but make sure to point the files to the correct directories before loading via JSGME. I have a hunch that while the patches will help somewhat, it may be possible that the WOTR Tuner will be more compatible this time around - but check over both when you find time.

I am busy with real work and a 6-cylinder Anzani Bleriot that I am helping an excellent 3-d modeler with, in First Eagles 2 (https://combatace.com/uploads/monthly_2021_02/image.png.ffddfc0bb064320834db313d09b854e0.png), so I am currently limited with my free time until further notice - but I will do my best to read the WOFF posts here regularly, also on CombatAce, to keep abreast of latest and exciting developments.

Cheers all and happy flying,
Von S smile2


Last edited by VonS; 04/08/21 10:42 PM. Reason: Added info.

// See WOFF on a Mac post for installation instructions regarding WOFF UE/PE/BH&H2 on Macs (https://tinyurl.com/WOFFonMac) // VonS WOFF/WOTR mods. are tweaks of files that are © OBD Software. // FE2 Tweaked FMs & Realism Pack (https://tinyurl.com/FE2fms) // FE2 Representative Vids. (https://tinyurl.com/fe2onamac) //
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