#4560247 - 03/16/21 05:33 PM
Re: What is the penalty for littering in space?
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Will the service drop during cloudy and rainy days? You've looked up the term "trolling" before right?
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#4560279 - 03/16/21 08:39 PM
Re: What is the penalty for littering in space?
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Elon Musk litters in space with Starlink.
I would agree. While the idea of making internet access available to those who wouldn't otherwise have it is great, I do worry about the possibility of collisions with that many new satellites being put into orbit. We have got to be getting very close to the point that one collision would cause a cascade of collisions to start blocking space travel for decades. This isn't even counting the fact that astronomers are going to have a hard time finding a 'window' that one of those Star Link sats doesn't cross. I'm a big fan of Space X, but this scheme really does worry me.
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#4560284 - 03/16/21 09:05 PM
Re: What is the penalty for littering in space?
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I think that U pay a fine or U have to go back and pick the litter up
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#4560347 - 03/17/21 10:31 AM
Re: What is the penalty for littering in space?
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Matrix movie was right: you humans multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague. So when will you be killing yourself then or is this just another one of your cutesy flippant comments? Let’s not get too personal in our comments. Community Hall should be for pleasant conversations.
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#4560378 - 03/17/21 02:04 PM
Re: What is the penalty for littering in space?
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Matrix movie was right: you humans multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague. So when will you be killing yourself then or is this just another one of your cutesy flippant comments? Panzer needs love. Poor fella! And don’t respond in kind to personal attacks.
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#4560381 - 03/17/21 02:09 PM
Re: What is the penalty for littering in space?
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Matrix movie was right: you humans multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague. So when will you be killing yourself then or is this just another one of your cutesy flippant comments? Panzer needs love. Poor fella! Apparently you're the one who needs some since you think all of humanity is a "virus".
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
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#4560395 - 03/17/21 03:23 PM
Re: What is the penalty for littering in space?
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Every living organism is the same way. If any other animal or living creature could reproduce as quickly and dominate their environments as effectively, they would be just as plentiful as humanity. Homo Sapiens just do it better. Exactly. The pattern has been documented all over the world. Predators feed on prey until there is not enough to sustain the population. Predator numbers decrease because there's not enough food. Prey numbers increase because of lowered predation. Predator population increases because of plentiful food, and the cycle repeats. The difference, NFB, is that humans cultivate their food. We plant food crops instead of searching for where they grow spontaneously. We produce sources of meat and instead of relying exclusively on hunting. A few other species do so on a MUCH smaller scale, but none has accomplished it to the degree that humans have.
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#4560398 - 03/17/21 03:43 PM
Re: What is the penalty for littering in space?
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Humans are the only creatures that have walked this Earth who have successfully created and refined a way to store records of events, discoveries, technologies and culture for future generations to review and learn from. This alone separates us from every other beast or insect in the wild. That we continue to embrace barbaric desires such as sexual lust or hedonistic deviancy detracts from this advantage we give ourselves.
Ascension requires relinquishing these urges and levering this knowledge for the betterment of the world.
On topic, as the OP suggests, perhaps we've littered a bit too much in space, already. In vague defense of Starlink, the satellites do de-orbit after five years or so, and burn up on reentry. But what if this fails to happen? And what if Starlink is only the first--what if the whole world moves to extreme EM dependence? We could eventually increase the amplitude high enough that we ionize ourselves out of existence, and all that will remain are those records. Hopefully we record our downfall in such a way that survives the test of time, as well.
I do not think that internet needs to be wireless on the EM spectrum. I view these starlink satellites as space trash.
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#4560406 - 03/17/21 04:46 PM
Re: What is the penalty for littering in space?
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Humans are the only creatures that have walked this Earth who have successfully created and refined a way to store records of events, discoveries, technologies and culture for future generations to review and learn from. This alone separates us from every other beast or insect in the wild. That we continue to embrace barbaric desires such as sexual lust or hedonistic deviancy detracts from this advantage we give ourselves.
Ascension requires relinquishing these urges and levering this knowledge for the betterment of the world. Other living organisms store records, but in a different way. They do it in their genetic material. Plants pass on 'knowledge', such as defence against predators, gained through their existence to the next generation. Animals teach their young. Dolphins also participate in 'barbaric desires such as sexual lust'; they copulate for purposes other than procreation.
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#4560409 - 03/17/21 05:05 PM
Re: What is the penalty for littering in space?
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Right, but what others forms of life have a record of their past that they can peruse on a whim and learn from? These records give us cognizant awareness of reality.
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