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#4554818 - 02/04/21 12:57 PM Dynamic campaigns  
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There: https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/162712-dce-campaigns/

Based on MBOT's originals.

They don't exactly have the depth of Falcon campaign, but still pretty fun to play with a track of your progress, and can even be played in coop/pvp.

I participated in testing some, and despite ED breaking things every other day had quite some fun doing so, thus in the end I created 3 of them (hot war in the cold" serie) with Cef/Miguel's technical great support (they're the real workforce).

Installation is not exactly intuitive yet (read the installation pdf carefully), they require the use of an external DOS window too, but hey, it's free wacky


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#4554950 - 02/05/21 11:19 AM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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The liberation campaign is also very good.
Combined strategic/flying campaign. Buy units, assign missions, set a slot for yourself (plus friends if you want).
There are many problems, but it is a lot of fun and being actively (and rapidly) developed.

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/183194-all-modulesspco-op-liberation-dynamic-campaign/#comments

#4556092 - 02/14/21 07:04 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: FlyingToaster]  
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Originally Posted by FlyingToaster
The liberation campaign is also very good.
Combined strategic/flying campaign. Buy units, assign missions, set a slot for yourself (plus friends if you want).
There are many problems, but it is a lot of fun and being actively (and rapidly) developed.

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/183194-all-modulesspco-op-liberation-dynamic-campaign/#comments

+1 This is my top and the only mod that is responsible for my return to DCS.

#4557533 - 02/24/21 03:11 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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#4557583 - 02/24/21 07:33 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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Looks like there some options out there and coming soon. I may have to revisit DCS again in the near future.

#4557895 - 02/26/21 07:13 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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When is the real dynamic campaign coming?

I watched some footage of DCS F-18 yesterday and got hot. Then I remembered there was nothing dynamic happening and was sad.

#4558048 - 02/28/21 11:30 AM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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There's a good amount of user made missions and campaigns for the Hornet, even without the dynamic element I've found them to be pretty engaging. Re-running a mission is predictable as you might imagine, but I've been having a good bit of fun with it!


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#4558304 - 03/02/21 01:04 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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I've found that playing DCS online with other friends more than makes up for the lack of a dynamic campaign. As JC mentioned, there are some really good user-made custom missions out there.


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#4558351 - 03/02/21 06:15 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: JohnnyChemo]  
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Originally Posted by JohnnyChemo
Re-running a mission is predictable as you might imagine


Yep.

One of the sections of any forum that would usually push to make a purchase...was reading a AAR from someone with screenies and action reports. If you have a look at the AAR section here at SimHQ...there are virtually no DCS AARs. Would you read an AAR of a mission that you already flew? Or that everyone has already flown? What would be the point? Most of the AARs here are from games with some sort of dynamic campaign.

I took a look over at the DCS forums...I couldn't find an AAR section anywhere in their forums. I head on over to Mudspike to have a look at their AAR section...same thing as here. Pretty much zero DCS AARs. This coming from a site run by one of my favorite AAR guys...BeachAV8R. He sold more sims of different flavors to me with his AARs more than any developer promotional materials ever did.

Yeah I get it...multiplayer is what drives a lot of folks...not my bag to rely on other people for my flight sim enjoyment though. I will keep an eye out for when (if) they finally get one done and maybe dust off the modules I bought and check it out. Until then...I'm playing more "immersive" sims/games.

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#4558362 - 03/02/21 06:57 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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The most fun I've ever had with multiplayer simming is through Falcon BMS on the persistent dynamic campaign servers or EECH on their dynamic campaign servers.

I memorize everything--I remember when I was an infant, vividly--sights, sounds, everything. Having to fly the same mission twice in any sim ruins the experience for me.

#4558770 - 03/05/21 07:03 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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Getting back into simming after a couple year break and I haven't bothered to re-install DCS...no point really. I know that Falcon BMS doesn't have the eye candy that DCS has...but it's still being actively worked on and is the most fully functional, immersive, dynamic, COMBAT flight sim you can fly for a modern jet at this moment.

Sadly...that statement will probably be true 10 years from now as well. Since ED started the DCS World module system, they have had almost a decade to get us a fully functional, feature rich, COMBAT experience with a lively and immersive battlefield/war situation. We have seen the statement that we need to be "patient" all the time. Well,
after a decade many of us are tired of waiting and realize the half finished module system is here to stay while attention to the COMBAT experience gets left behind.

If you are after the "Cockpit" experience and like taking pretty screen shots...then DCS is the better choice. If you want to feel like a combat pilot in a war...then you have to look elsewhere for another decade or so until ED gets something put together IMO.

I consider myself lucky that I like flight sims from all eras...WW! thru modern...plenty of immersive options out there.


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#4559328 - 03/10/21 05:39 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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I find it perplexing that Eagle Dynamics completely ignores what has made Falcon 4.0 and all the modded versions so popular: A dynamic campaign. Falcon has longevity due to the campaign engine alone. Without this, BMS would likely not exist.


So knowing this, why do they still persist on a plane model, and not give the fan base what they want and deserve?

Their sales would increase, for starters, as would the series popularity--and that could lead to great things.


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#4559449 - 03/11/21 01:31 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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Falcon 4.0 and all the modded versions were made and worked on by flightsim enthusiasts that had an extreme passion and loyalty to the genre.

Dcs have no passion for anything incuding their own loyal fanbase,
They will lash out as many of these half broken modules as they can at an extremely excessive price for what their loyal punters get for their hard earned cash.

Reason for this is because they"DCS" are GREEDY CODERS/DEVS.

To sum it up : BMS IS FREE
DCS IS DOWNRIGHT ROBBERY.

#4559527 - 03/11/21 09:34 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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Ridiculous. To describe it as robbery is to make your point worthless and hyperbolic.


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#4559530 - 03/11/21 10:06 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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DCS is expensive, yes, but not robbery. You know what you are getting, even with Early Access things.
The lack of an integrated dynamic campaign is a bit sad, but there is still an absolute ton of gameplay in it.

ED, and the various 3rd party developers, are companies. They are trying to make money. There is nothing wrong with that at all.

#4559531 - 03/11/21 10:08 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
I find it perplexing that Eagle Dynamics completely ignores what has made Falcon 4.0 and all the modded versions so popular: A dynamic campaign.


I have little interest in a dynamic campaign.

I do want some improvements to the mission editor.

#4559534 - 03/11/21 10:43 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: DM]  
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Originally Posted by DM
Ridiculous. To describe it as robbery is to make your point worthless and hyperbolic.


To not design, develop and release a proper dynamic campaign for DCS after all these years makes ED worthless.

There's no excuses for a lack of one. This is the one defining feature that the majority of players will benefit from.


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#4559548 - 03/12/21 01:46 AM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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Yes sir

gag. Cough! Sorry I had difficulty having that opinion jammed down my throat. I'll be alright

#4559650 - 03/12/21 08:33 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: rollnloop.]  
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While not criminal...ED sure put themselves in the record books for being the first video game developer in history to have a pre-order bonus be 4 years late after the initial product was released...lol. (A-10/Nevada)

If you're good with being that patient...more power to ya! Many folks got turned off to the "as is" business model ED uses...while they wait for the module they purchased to be finished...just to watch other "as is" modules being released while they're still waiting.


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#4559979 - 03/14/21 06:53 PM Re: Dynamic campaigns [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Originally Posted by DM
Ridiculous. To describe it as robbery is to make your point worthless and hyperbolic.


To not design, develop and release a proper dynamic campaign for DCS after all these years makes ED worthless.

There's no excuses for a lack of one. This is the one defining feature that the majority of players will benefit from.



Perhaps, in your opinion. I get a lot of value from it. True that I would get more with a dynamic campaign engine, but it's a long way from worthless. And, no matter how you lay it all out, none of it represents robbery smile

According to a Q&A I saw last year, they are working on one.


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