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#4558569 - 03/04/21 12:28 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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It’s why I sold my motorcycle last year. I’ve been riding for almost 50 years, but no longer felt safe because of people only half-watching the road because of phones.


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#4558578 - 03/04/21 01:24 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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Up until Sept last year (when my bike was stolen) I was still riding, I'm 61 now and have been riding since I was 16.

I've pretty much decided not to have another one for the reasons you stated OG. I've lost count how many times people have either pulled out in front of me, cut me off or just generally treated me like dirt and I am a very courteous driver/rider. Enough is enough.


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#4558618 - 03/04/21 05:29 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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I was only riding until about age 44. We took up competitive Ballroom dancing seriously and I did not want to take the chance of smashing a leg or worse. Like you, I had some close scrapes and saw worse.

I had just bought a new BMW motorcycle for us to ride together (not picked up yet). I thought about it. I cancelled the order within the legal 3 day period. Never rode again.


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#4558634 - 03/04/21 06:44 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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Those darn cagers. *shakes fist angrily!

#4558635 - 03/04/21 07:06 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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If I ever ride again it'll be off road, where you don't really have to worry if Zoey is texting Brad instead of paying attention to driving..

#4558692 - 03/05/21 12:44 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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Everything I said in this thread about my wife x10, the outpouring of support texts from my family to her cell phone refreshing my appreciation for what I have. Just glad now that we're returning to some normalcy.



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#4558693 - 03/05/21 12:47 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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Thanks for that update Mark.


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#4558719 - 03/05/21 03:09 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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Good news Mark!



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#4559040 - 03/08/21 12:39 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
If I ever ride again it'll be off road, where you don't really have to worry if Zoey is texting Brad instead of paying attention to driving..



its hard to ride off road when you have ridden street... I tried to ride a friends Kawi 250 4 stroke one day when we were at an off road camp site for the weekend, I was on it for about an hour and just handed it over... everything is opposite.. I woulda broke my neck if I kept riding..

meanwhile, I could ride my old CBR 1000 on Ortega highway here in Orange County at 100 miles an hour in some spots with knee down in other spots zipping through like it was Isle Of Man TT


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#4560713 - 03/20/21 02:56 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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Reports are he did not apply the brakes at all. Acceleration was not decreased. Sounds like he fell asleep.

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#4560740 - 03/20/21 08:38 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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..or was doing something on his phone or vehicle's internet. Clearly not paying attention. The initial examination of the scene also indicated no attempt to stop the vehicle, even after it had careened off the center divider. And yet they announced only days after the crash that no charges would be filed.


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#4560769 - 03/20/21 11:20 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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99% of the time I am against greater government oversight and regulation but I make an exception when it comes to the issue of people texting and browsing the net on their phones while driving. It's really an epidemic now.


I personally think it should be a felony, or at the very least the equivalent bust of a DUI.

If I had to choose between riding with a texter or a person a bit above the legal alcohol limit (I'm talking someone who could still pass a typical field sobriety test, minus the breathalyzer) who's ACTUALLY FULLY PAYING ATTENTION to the road - I'd choose the "drunk driver" every single time.

I only recall 2 times in my life being nearly hit by a drunk driver. I think I've SEEN clearly drunk drivers less than 50 times in my life.

Cellphone addicts? Can't even count, but far, far, far higher numbers on both the above points...

I've been saying for years now, this issue is like DUI of many decades ago. Not until a few more politicians kids or super wealthy peoples kids get killed from it will anything change...

#4560772 - 03/20/21 11:28 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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I rode knowing there were drunk drivers, you could pick them out, but it was the cellphone that caused me to give up my motorcycle.


Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

Someday your life will flash in front of your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
#4560774 - 03/20/21 11:32 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
I rode knowing there were drunk drivers, you could pick them out, but it was the cellphone that caused me to give up my motorcycle.


It made me quit riding on any Friday or Saturday after 3pm!

Another huge annoyance I have about phones in cars - a lot of people have resorted to using them at the stoplights. Which is better than while driving, for sure, but now I often get stuck an extra cycle at intersections because it takes everyone so long to realize it's time to MOVE...

#4560783 - 03/21/21 02:29 AM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: vonBaur]  
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Originally Posted by vonBaur
..or was doing something on his phone or vehicle's internet. Clearly not paying attention. The initial examination of the scene also indicated no attempt to stop the vehicle, even after it had careened off the center divider. And yet they announced only days after the crash that no charges would be filed.

If this was the case, he would have hit the brakes at some point, or took his foot of the gas.


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#4560841 - 03/21/21 04:57 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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A reasonable point, WangoTango. But the same can be said for falling asleep. It would take a VERY sound sleeper not to realize you'd bounced off something. Along with the fact that, normally, when you fall asleep your body goes limp, meaning you'll relax the pressure on the gas pedal.


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#4560860 - 03/21/21 06:53 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: vonBaur]  
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Originally Posted by vonBaur
A reasonable point, WangoTango. But the same can be said for falling asleep. It would take a VERY sound sleeper not to realize you'd bounced off something. Along with the fact that, normally, when you fall asleep your body goes limp, meaning you'll relax the pressure on the gas pedal.

It would take a deep sleep for sure. Not sure if there was a gravel shoulder or not. Usually hitting that gets your attention.


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#4560875 - 03/21/21 10:02 PM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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A reasonable point, WangoTango. But the same can be said for falling asleep. It would take a VERY sound sleeper not to realize you'd bounced off something. Along with the fact that, normally, when you fall asleep your body goes limp, meaning you'll relax the pressure on the gas pedal.

It would take a deep sleep for sure. Not sure if there was a gravel shoulder or not. Usually hitting that gets your attention.


Well, I actually had an experience with falling asleep at the wheel and wandering off the road once, on a freaking MOTORCYCLE no less!

I was 18, riding from California to Missouri, and just way overestimated my ability for the first leg. Left at 1am with the plan of trying to make it to New Mexico by evening.

Somewhere in a desert in Arizona I managed to doze off while riding (had a duffel bag on the tank with jackets in it, was "lying" on that, pretty comfortable actually)...

Ended up in dirt/weeds on the right side of the road, doing about 70. Woke me up instantly, but I swear it took me about 2 full seconds to process what was happening and react to it....

Even wide awake it's possible to get temporarily "stunned" when something totally unexpected happens while driving a vehicle...

Needless to say I stopped at the very next town and got some rest!

#4560889 - 03/22/21 01:38 AM Re: Tiger Woods involved in serious Car accident [Re: WangoTango]  
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Wow, Zamzow. Needless to say, we are fortunate to have you with us today.

(On a side note, I can't believe a beaver's home, is a censored word here)


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Woods was driving 84 to 87 mph on a downhill stretch of road outside Los Angeles that had a speed limit of 45 mph, Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva said Wednesday.


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