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#4552210 - 01/14/21 04:08 AM Re: Wayet Earp [Re: carrick58]  
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Originally Posted by carrick58
Tombstone had all the Cowboy Hoopla of the Old West. Outlaws and Law men walked the walk and talked the talk It was shoot em up Popcorn film with attention to period detail ( Gun Holsters, firearms, clothing. Cowboy talk like I am ur Huckleberry ect } It dealt more with the Fantasy of the West than the Truth about the West. thus providing a Fantasy release in a fun Movie that I still enjoy watching over again. As for Costner's film it was too long. Maybe his best attempt was Open Range with Robert Duvall. and the longest gunfight on film




The general feeling I got from reading many reviews when "Wyatt Earp" was first released was that it was just simply DULL.

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#4552222 - 01/14/21 09:19 AM Re: Wayet Earp [Re: carrick58]  
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Originally Posted by carrick58
Tombstone had all the Cowboy Hoopla of the Old West. Outlaws and Law men walked the walk and talked the talk It was shoot em up Popcorn film with attention to period detail ( Gun Holsters, firearms, clothing. Cowboy talk like I am ur Huckleberry ect } It dealt more with the Fantasy of the West than the Truth about the West. thus providing a Fantasy release in a fun Movie that I still enjoy watching over again. As for Costner's film it was too long. Maybe his best attempt was Open Range with Robert Duvall. and the longest gunfight on film

https://youtu.be/1E4BQmImrm4

https://youtu.be/ANsUMi1a3_o


Open Range is a simply brilliant Western. Gorgeous cinematography. Great acting, good story. One of my top 5 westerns.

#4552223 - 01/14/21 09:21 AM Re: Wayet Earp [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by carrick58
Tombstone had all the Cowboy Hoopla of the Old West. Outlaws and Law men walked the walk and talked the talk It was shoot em up Popcorn film with attention to period detail ( Gun Holsters, firearms, clothing. Cowboy talk like I am ur Huckleberry ect } It dealt more with the Fantasy of the West than the Truth about the West. thus providing a Fantasy release in a fun Movie that I still enjoy watching over again. As for Costner's film it was too long. Maybe his best attempt was Open Range with Robert Duvall. and the longest gunfight on film




The general feeling I got from reading many reviews when "Wyatt Earp" was first released was that it was just simply DULL.


It's a good film but think you have to be interested in the subject matter of Earp. If just a casual movie gooer I can see that Tombstone would be a better draw. I prefer Tombstone myself even though it's more pulpy than Wyatt Earp.

#4552420 - 01/15/21 04:10 PM Re: Wayet Earp [Re: RossUK]  
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Originally Posted by RossUK
Originally Posted by carrick58
Tombstone had all the Cowboy Hoopla of the Old West. Outlaws and Law men walked the walk and talked the talk It was shoot em up Popcorn film with attention to period detail ( Gun Holsters, firearms, clothing. Cowboy talk like I am ur Huckleberry ect } It dealt more with the Fantasy of the West than the Truth about the West. thus providing a Fantasy release in a fun Movie that I still enjoy watching over again. As for Costner's film it was too long. Maybe his best attempt was Open Range with Robert Duvall. and the longest gunfight on film

https://youtu.be/1E4BQmImrm4

https://youtu.be/ANsUMi1a3_o


Open Range is a simply brilliant Western. Gorgeous cinematography. Great acting, good story. One of my top 5 westerns.

2nd that recommendation on Open Range. In fact, I think I'll watch it again this weekend.

#4552739 - 01/18/21 10:48 PM Re: Wayet Earp [Re: rwatson]  
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#4552824 - 01/19/21 09:30 PM Re: Wayet Earp [Re: rwatson]  
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I think both films took "liberties" in the historical stuff and they follow the same "stretching of the truth" that Hollywood always does. Case in point is that Ringo was not killed by anyone. He shot himself under a tree.

And Earp was a blonde haired blue eyed guy!

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#4552826 - 01/19/21 09:36 PM Re: Wayet Earp [Re: Outlaw]  
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Originally Posted by Outlaw
Case in point is that Ringo was not killed by anyone. He shot himself under a tree.


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#4552846 - 01/20/21 02:05 AM Re: Wayet Earp [Re: rwatson]  
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Historical inaccuracies aside, I think the bottom line is that cinematically, Tombstone simply worked while Wyatt Earp did not.


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#4553059 - 01/21/21 02:48 PM Re: Wayet Earp [Re: rwatson]  
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Even though I've read that Wyatt Earp never used a long-barrelled Colt, I couldn't resist getting this when a guy offered it to me dirt cheap at a gunshow in Fort Smith a few years ago. It's a replica made by Uberti of the 10-inch barrelled movie gun Kirt Russell used in the Tombstone OK corral shootout. I took it to the range right after I got it and every shot keyholed in the target telling me why I got it so cheap. I was able to slug the barrel and reload with a slightly larger diameter bullet which solved the issue. However, I didn't really get it to shoot that much since I have a half dozen other SAA's for that. I ordered the special case from Cimarron firearms since they also sell this particular reproduction.

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P.S. Here's what the S & W Model 3 looks like. This is the Schofield version used by the US Cavalry, but the only major difference between it and a commercial model is in the way the top latch opens.

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