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#4552541 - 01/16/21 04:12 PM Star Trek Turbolifts  
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The number of decks in Star Trek starships never made a lot of sense to me nor does turbolifts "falling" inside a spaceship that has to create it's own artificial gravity. Why would they create gravity in the turboshafts? The lifts would work better without any, just generate gravity in the turbolift floor for the occupants.

I've not seen these Discovery scenes but it seems they taken the turbolift silliness to an entirely new level.



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#4552926 - 01/20/21 05:28 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: F4UDash4]  
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The Turbo lift sequences in Discovery make absolutely no sense at all. Vast open spaces, Turbo Lift Cars generating their own pathways. Roller coasters inside the spacecraft?


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#4552936 - 01/20/21 06:11 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: F4UDash4]  
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I have never seen Discovery until this video, and the series looks quite retarded.

#4553138 - 01/22/21 07:40 AM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: F4UDash4]  
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So, at some point, starfleet obtained Gallifreyan tech?

#4553451 - 01/24/21 09:40 AM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Got to fit in some mindless CGI action. frown

I thought the first 8 episodes in Series 3 were pretty good, the next 2 were just a vehicle for Yeoh, then the last 3 were utter rubbish.

#4553547 - 01/25/21 12:26 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
I have never seen Discovery until this video, and the series looks quite retarded.




I have not watched Discovery so I can't comment on it but I do know that the ST fanbase seems to be highly divided among the several different series. There are fans who like TOS and nothing else while other fans absolutely love TNG but think DS9 is too "dark". Then there are the fans who think Enterprise is a huge pile of dung while other fans think it's an incredibly underrated series.


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#4553562 - 01/25/21 02:37 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
I have never seen Discovery until this video, and the series looks quite retarded.




I have not watched Discovery so I can't comment on it but I do know that the ST fanbase seems to be highly divided among the several different series. There are fans who like TOS and nothing else while other fans absolutely love TNG but think DS9 is too "dark". Then there are the fans who think Enterprise is a huge pile of dung while other fans think it's an incredibly underrated series.


I like and appreciate the differences of TOS-TNG-DS9-VOY-ENT but the recent series and movies are a different story. None feel like Trek other than having starships and Trek characters in them.


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#4553563 - 01/25/21 02:40 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
None feel like Trek other than having starships and Trek characters in them.



The JJ Abrams Trek films were indeed "Starwarsified". In fact, JJ even mentioned the influence of Star Wars in some interviews he did way back when the first film was released in 2009.


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#4553895 - 01/28/21 01:17 AM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by F4UDash4
None feel like Trek other than having starships and Trek characters in them.



The JJ Abrams Trek films were indeed "Starwarsified". In fact, JJ even mentioned the influence of Star Wars in some interviews he did way back when the first film was released in 2009.


Speaking as a person who generally likes Star Wars better than Star Trek, I absolutely hated the "Star Warsy" influence in the new Star Trek. Not everything has to be the same; when I want Star Wars, I watch Star Wars, when I want Star Trek, I watch Star Trek; when you mash them together, you loose what makes each special.

#4553918 - 01/28/21 11:06 AM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: F4UDash4]  
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I found the first of the JJ Abrams era Star Trek movies almost offensively bad.


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#4553920 - 01/28/21 11:32 AM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: Nimits]  
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Originally Posted by Nimits


Speaking as a person who generally likes Star Wars better than Star Trek, I absolutely hated the "Star Warsy" influence in the new Star Trek. Not everything has to be the same; when I want Star Wars, I watch Star Wars, when I want Star Trek, I watch Star Trek; when you mash them together, you loose what makes each special.



I agree with your point but I also understand the logic behind the artistic changes made by JJ and Paramount. Star Trek Nemesis was a box office flop and Enterprise suffered from low ratings and was cancelled prematurely. Paramount was then looking to make the franchise appeal to a wider mainstream audience so hence they brought in JJ.


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#4553921 - 01/28/21 11:40 AM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: DM]  
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Originally Posted by DM
I found the first of the JJ Abrams era Star Trek movies almost offensively bad.



In retrospect and after having watched the movie several times I've come to the conclusion that the casting was really well done but the main story made no sense at all. Have you seen this meme? It really sums it up well.

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#4553923 - 01/28/21 12:00 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
In retrospect and after having watched the movie several times I've come to the conclusion that the casting was really well done but the main story made no sense at all. Have you seen this meme? It really sums it up well.


That's a good meme, but there's much, much more than just that smile

Remember when as a punishment for Kirk, they..... threw him out of the side of a spaceship? Then he fell down onto the Incredibly Dangerous Planet? Then, when he was running away from a monster, he ran into Spock? Yep.


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#4553931 - 01/28/21 01:07 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: F4UDash4]  
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#4554755 - 02/03/21 09:05 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by DM
I found the first of the JJ Abrams era Star Trek movies almost offensively bad.



In retrospect and after having watched the movie several times I've come to the conclusion that the casting was really well done but the main story made no sense at all. Have you seen this meme? It really sums it up well.










Meme makes no sense. Grandfather Paradox you see.

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How to inject new life into a SciFi franchise?Time Travel...

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Originally Posted by 453Raafspitty
How to inject new life into a SciFi franchise?Time Travel...



LOL! Oh yes, that is truly an original and ground-breaking theme.


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#4572069 - 06/17/21 06:27 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: Khai]  
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Originally Posted by Khai


Meme makes no sense. Grandfather Paradox you see.


As opposed to the plot as executed . . . ? ? ?

#4573520 - 07/02/21 10:29 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: F4UDash4]  
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The biggest plot hole in JJ Trek could have been solved if they would have fleshed out where Nero was between the time he appeared in the past and when he started his attack on Vulcan. It was covered in a motion comic that most people didn't know about. What it revealed was Nero was imprisoned by the Klingons and it's hinted at in the theatrical release when Uhura incepts the Klingon transmission.


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#4597847 - 04/24/22 05:00 AM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: F4UDash4]  
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the whole "nero in prison" story is only found on the special features disc for the movie.

oddly the turbolifts in discovery are a joke, discovery is a joke.

i always said deep space nine and enterprise was a joke, but discovery and the other new shows... make them look good

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