Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 2 1 2
#4597944 - 04/25/22 02:25 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: masterKamera]  
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 13,822
F4UDash4 Online cool
Veteran
F4UDash4  Online Cool
Veteran

Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 13,822
SC
Originally Posted by masterKamera


i always said deep space nine and enterprise was a joke, but discovery and the other new shows... make them look good


DS9 is the best overall Trek ever and Enterprise was great, canceled just when it would have gotten awesome (Romulan War, refitted/updated Enterprise)


"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz
Inline advert (4th to 5th topic)

#4597968 - 04/25/22 04:24 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: F4UDash4]  
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 10,570
Arthonon Offline
Veteran
Arthonon  Offline
Veteran

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 10,570
California
Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by masterKamera


i always said deep space nine and enterprise was a joke, but discovery and the other new shows... make them look good


DS9 is the best overall Trek ever and Enterprise was great, canceled just when it would have gotten awesome (Romulan War, refitted/updated Enterprise)

Agreed on DS9 - really well done, and I think one of the better series endings. Sisko was a great captain, I'd say maybe second to Kirk, but it's a tough call - Kirk set the standard so it's difficult to compare fairly. But compared to Picard, Janway, etc., Sisko is way out front, and maybe a little ahead of Archer.

Enterprise was a good premise, but I didn't like the temporal cold war, and the Xindi story line. Also, it seemed like things progressed too quickly, like they didn't really want to do an early Starfleet/Federation story, and wanted to get back into TNG or something.


Ken Cartwright

No single drop of rain feels it is responsible for the flood.

http://www.techflyer.net

#4598092 - 04/26/22 06:31 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: Arthonon]  
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 13,822
F4UDash4 Online cool
Veteran
F4UDash4  Online Cool
Veteran

Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 13,822
SC
Originally Posted by Arthonon

Enterprise was a good premise, but I didn't like the temporal cold war, and the Xindi story line. Also, it seemed like things progressed too quickly, like they didn't really want to do an early Starfleet/Federation story, and wanted to get back into TNG or something.


I can understand that but I think the progression was handled pretty good personally. Transporters existed but where not used for humans, except in emergencies. I thought that was a good "toe in the water" step toward the familiar Trek Tech without jumping all in. Same with weapons / shields.


"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz
#4598098 - 04/26/22 06:48 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: F4UDash4]  
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 10,570
Arthonon Offline
Veteran
Arthonon  Offline
Veteran

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 10,570
California
Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by Arthonon

Enterprise was a good premise, but I didn't like the temporal cold war, and the Xindi story line. Also, it seemed like things progressed too quickly, like they didn't really want to do an early Starfleet/Federation story, and wanted to get back into TNG or something.


I can understand that but I think the progression was handled pretty good personally. Transporters existed but where not used for humans, except in emergencies. I thought that was a good "toe in the water" step toward the familiar Trek Tech without jumping all in. Same with weapons / shields.

Not to be argumentative, and it's been a while since I've seen it so I may not remember everything accurately, but it seemed like once they used the transporter in an emergency, they started using it a lot more. But beyond that technological approach, it seemed like they interacted with a lot of alien races earlier than I expected, with a Klingon being on Earth in the opening episode, and encounters with the Romulans, etc. Part of that is because of sticking with what was established in the First Contact movie, where the Vulcans came to Earth, and I didn't really like that either. I think the original series implied that Earth had gone out and encountered a few races, established relations, and then expanded from there, and it was a slower process.

For example, I got the impression that the Romulan war was with Earth, not the Federation, so I thought Earth was more isolated for a while. There certainly could be a Earth-Romulan war in the situation in Enterprise, but it just seemed to have a different vibe than what was implied in the original series.


Ken Cartwright

No single drop of rain feels it is responsible for the flood.

http://www.techflyer.net

#4598163 - 04/27/22 01:32 PM Re: Star Trek Turbolifts [Re: Arthonon]  
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 13,822
F4UDash4 Online cool
Veteran
F4UDash4  Online Cool
Veteran

Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 13,822
SC
Originally Posted by Arthonon

Not to be argumentative, and it's been a while since I've seen it so I may not remember everything accurately, but it seemed like once they used the transporter in an emergency, they started using it a lot more.


Three or four times I can recall, all emergencies. But if you did find out it works ok with humans, why wouldn't you keep on using it?



Originally Posted by Arthonon
I think the original series implied that Earth had gone out and encountered a few races, established relations, and then expanded from there, and it was a slower process.


There were a few ideas that were mentioned vaguely in the first few episodes of the Original Series (especially "The Cage") that would have really cramped the writing if taken to extreme as undeniable canon. IE comments by the helm implying that faster than light travel is new, excited Spock shouting "The Women!" or "Switch to rockets, we're blasting out!"", Pike telling the Telosians Earth was "at the other end of this galaxy"


"In the vast library of socialist books, there’s not a single volume on how to create wealth, only how to take and “redistribute” it.” - David Horowitz
Page 2 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RacerGT 

Quick Search
Recent Articles
Support SimHQ

If you shop on Amazon use this Amazon link to support SimHQ
.
Social


Recent Topics
It's Friday: grown up humor for the weekend.
by NoFlyBoy. 04/12/24 01:41 PM
OJ Simpson Dead at 76
by bones. 04/11/24 03:02 PM
They wokefied tomb raider !!
by Blade_RJ. 04/10/24 03:09 PM
Good F-35 Podcast
by RossUK. 04/08/24 09:02 AM
Gleda Estes
by Tarnsman. 04/06/24 06:22 PM
Food Safety and Bad Roommates
by KRT_Bong. 04/04/24 02:16 AM
Incredible historical ironies
by PanzerMeyer. 04/03/24 01:56 PM
Copyright 1997-2016, SimHQ Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0