#4553173 - 01/22/2101:37 PMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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Originally Posted by MarkG
Not hating on above video (it's all subjective), I just don't understand it.
You are 100% right on it being subjective and there's no fault with you not understanding it. This would be like showing a video from a Trisha Yearwood concert to an 18 year old guy from Detroit. I'm sure he would not understand it at all either!
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
#4553248 - 01/22/2105:32 PMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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You are 100% right on it being subjective and there's no fault with you not understanding it. This would be like showing a video from a Trisha Yearwood concert to an 18 year old guy from Detroit. I'm sure he would not understand it at all either!
I get what you're saying, PM. Except that the concert I posted was in London's O2 Arena where Celine Dion sells out back-to-back shows, and which continues to host "Europe's largest country music festival"... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_O2_Arena
And much of that audience doesn't look like inner-city urbanites to me.
BTW, I used Drake as an example as I've heard of him, having fans of his "music" in my own clan.
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Of course, having diverse musical tastes isn't anything new. I have enough Commodores, EW&F, Kool and the Gang, Chic, Gap Band, Con Funk Shun, etc. etc., along with *numerous* individual black artists that I rank among the top in my collection. I believe that anything Quincy Jones touches (like the first two MJ albums, I believe) turns to gold, including his own album "The Dude" (various artists). Fantastic music IMO, usually with a party groove or romantic vibe (often a passionate heart-breaker) that I usually don't find in Rock.
But it's *music* played by musicians, and that's the disconnect for me. That, and the fact that by my late-20's (mid-1990's) I was already tuning out to current music, not getting back into it until my early-40's for personal motivation and enjoyment. I feel lucky today that, at least before the virus, I can enjoy my favorite 70's/80's played live at any number of local venues (while ~3 years ago experiencing Nashville's 70's/80's Rock nightlife which even blows Baton Rouge away!).
Hair bands and their sappy power ballads aren't going anywhere, to be forever played at theatres and Rock bars near you...
I wonder what music past the late-80's is going to have this sort of staying power? Only the early-to-mid-90's had some possibility but it never happened that I can tell, I believe in part because most of it just isn't fun date-night music. What will these places be playing live 30 years from now (1980 will have been 70 years ago, and live 70's is still very popular today)?
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4553251 - 01/22/2105:50 PMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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Originally Posted by MarkG
I wonder what music past the late-80's is going to have this sort of staying power?
That's a very loaded question and one that is extremely difficult to predict. To give you an example, The Dave Clark Five was a huge hit in both the UK and the US during the 60's and early 70's and they had tons of top 40 hits. Today though? I would venture that the mainstream has pretty much forgotten about them. Then you have the Beatles who still sell tons of albums, have their very own Cirque de Soleil production based on their music and are still very much etched into Western popular culture. Why did these two groups have different outcomes? I'm sure people can come up with many different explanations.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
Yeah, PM. The Beatles will never die. We're still packing lawns with the more popular tributes...
Also in theatres, like this combo Beatles/Stones show where we scored front row center seats in a packed house (seats 325). Their "Beast of Burden" was perfection...
I figure the Rock shows will start up again mostly with outdoor venues. Lying on a blanket under the stars listening to a Beatles tribute band (accompanied by the Baton Rouge Symphony Orchestra) was such an enjoyable evening.
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4553263 - 01/22/2106:20 PMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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Great pics! Thanks for sharing.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
#4553288 - 01/22/2110:11 PMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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EDIT: Saw this on a big screen and it's too much IMO, reduced to thumbnails (where are the Eagles?!)...
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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4553320 - 01/23/2102:05 AMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4553321 - 01/23/2102:21 AMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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I remember them playing this on the Recycler tour, with laser-lighted outlines of naked chicks on the Omni arena ceiling (Atlanta) to match the lyrics. Great show.
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4553324 - 01/23/2102:47 AMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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Time to crank up the Ninja with a fruity concoction (only my 3rd or 4th drink during Coronavirus...so at least I don't have *that* problem ), and start tonight's date-night feature film...
This is Spinal Tap (1984).
And with that, I'll post some qualifying reverse psychology...
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
Have not thought of the Bus Boys in a long tiime, they are so good. Thanks Mark for the reminder
Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
I've never heard of the BusBoys so thanks for mentioning them.
According to the Wiki article, it seems their commercial height and popularity was in the early to mid 80's. They had songs in both the soundtracks for "Beverly Hills Cop" and "Ghostbusters".
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4553620 - 01/25/2110:05 PMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4553646 - 01/26/2103:07 AMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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It was the right music at the right time and I'm grateful for it, even more so today as I live in a mix of past/present/future. As someone who was still consumed by current music into my early-to-mid-20's, I believe Grunge (the "Seattle Sound") and some Alternative had a negative effect on my psyche. I'm not sure if current music passively reflects the times or more actively creates them. I know that at the time it was not only radio stations but MTV who decided what was popular (IMO, the best music happened before cable/MTV).
80's Rock was mostly fun and romantic. Gotta do a New Wave (early-to-mid-80's) thread one day.
As I said earlier...remove the glam, antics and sometimes the vocals (but not in this case, love the song), and you'll probably have a proficient entertaining Rock show. Or just forget the visuals which aren't required in Rock anyway.
Hearing > seeing.
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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4553650 - 01/26/2105:54 AMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4553682 - 01/26/2102:55 PMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4553686 - 01/26/2103:17 PMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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Originally Posted by MarkG
[From Now and Zen, also a favorite album.
A friend of mine lent me that CD when I was in high school and while I didn't think the album was bad in any way, I also found it pretty forgettable.
I guess I was just hoping that it would be as good as the Led Zeppelin stuff but it wasn't. I set myself up for disappointment.
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
A friend of mine lent me that CD when I was in high school and while I didn't think the album was bad in any way, I also found it pretty forgettable.
I guess I was just hoping that it would be as good as the Led Zeppelin stuff but it wasn't. I set myself up for disappointment.
Yeah, it's hard to recapture the sound, although Sting came close with some of his solo albums, IMO ("Fortress Around Your Heart" could have been on Synchronicity).
I like the subtle Led Zeppelin sampling on the one big hit of the album...
Robert Plant - 'Tall Cool One' - Official Music Video [HD REMASTERED]
I asked my wife who she misses most at our local venues (Brit Floyd doesn't count, always requires a road trip). I thought she'd say The Molly Ringwalds but she said ZoSo (Zep tribute that comes to BR regularly). Just something about their music (when covered properly) that makes for an extra special evening...
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4553692 - 01/26/2104:02 PMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
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I dunno. Just an alternative sound (to harder Rock) that I was enjoying at the time (like DLR solo albums). Maybe this one is more good-memory induced vs. actual good music (it happens).
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run
#4555964 - 02/13/2104:32 PMRe: Celebrating the music of the late-1980s.
[Re: MarkG]
...was about Tommy Lee's relationship with his then wife (m. '86 to '93)...
...who later married Bon Jovi's lead guitarist Richie Sambora (m. '94 to '06).
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EDIT: A miss-print on several news websites quote Richie Sambora about his (and Heather Locklear's) daughter graduating from LSU recently. Say what??? Celebrities in my own swampy back yard?
The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in Gives way and suddenly it’s day again The sun is in the east Even though the day is done Two suns in the sunset, hmph Could be the human race is run