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#4545318 - 11/18/20 02:36 AM Dear sir, can you please fly your aircraft at a steady speed?  
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Is it just me, or does anyone else's flight leader fly like a knucklehead whilst leading a flight? It's Feb. 1916, and we're all flying Bristol Scouts. My flight leader seems to be incapable of maintaining a steady speed. My flight seems to consist of flying at top speed to catch up, or to blip like mad to prevent from crashing into him. I know it's not me, because I can throttle back and forth and match him, and he's going 70 mph for a minute or so, then he's down to 50 mph for no apparent reason.

I don't particularly expect an answer, I was just wondering if anyone else feels my pain. On a more positive note, I shot down two of Immelmann's wingmen during that patrol. biggrin


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#4545362 - 11/18/20 04:07 PM Re: Dear sir, can you please fly your aircraft at a steady speed? [Re: Slick Wilhelm]  
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Not just you, Willie. I thought I was seeing the same thing, so I set autopilot. Yep, he's toying with us.


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#4545391 - 11/18/20 09:56 PM Re: Dear sir, can you please fly your aircraft at a steady speed? [Re: vonBaur]  
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Originally Posted by vonBaur
Not just you, Willie. I thought I was seeing the same thing, so I set autopilot. Yep, he's toying with us.



Well-played, vonBaur. Not many people get the joke in my callsign. But anyone who calls me Willie sure does. smile

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#4545401 - 11/19/20 12:12 AM Re: Dear sir, can you please fly your aircraft at a steady speed? [Re: vonBaur]  
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Originally Posted by vonBaur
Not just you, Willie. I thought I was seeing the same thing, so I set autopilot. Yep, he's toying with us.


Yeah, watching the autopilot fly my plane in a formation (especially with time acceleration on) almost looks like a binary throttle (100% / idle / 100% / idle ...). I don't know if there's anything coming in the next version dealing with an AI pilot leading a flight; but it sure would be nice to see.


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#4545934 - 11/24/20 06:51 PM Re: Dear sir, can you please fly your aircraft at a steady speed? [Re: Slick Wilhelm]  
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Originally Posted by Slick Wilhelm
Originally Posted by vonBaur
Not just you, Willie. I thought I was seeing the same thing, so I set autopilot. Yep, he's toying with us.



Well-played, vonBaur. Not many people get the joke in my callsign. But anyone who calls me Willie sure does. smile



jawdrop You're actually Bill Clinton?!?!

To the subject, I recall having the same problem, and figured it was just my inexperience. Now you more experienced flyers are telling me it wasn't just me being a n00b! Thanks!


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#4550729 - 01/05/21 01:53 AM Re: Dear sir, can you please fly your aircraft at a steady speed? [Re: Slick Wilhelm]  
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Definitely not alone there. Remind me to never enlist as a corporal again 😋. I’d like to see this addressed too.

#4550821 - 01/05/21 05:48 PM Re: Dear sir, can you please fly your aircraft at a steady speed? [Re: Slick Wilhelm]  
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I've also recently noticed that the escorted flights do the same thing. Makes keeping station with them as flight leader a real pain.


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#4550871 - 01/05/21 09:52 PM Re: Dear sir, can you please fly your aircraft at a steady speed? [Re: Slick Wilhelm]  
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I wonder if the AI flight lead is trying to maintain the schedule, so its projections for the entire leg over compensate for instantaneous things like a wind gust. I would think it would be easier to hold formation position if it prioritized throttle position (say at 80-85% or so, except if climbing or stalling). Anyway, just a suggestion.


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#4550932 - 01/06/21 09:29 AM Re: Dear sir, can you please fly your aircraft at a steady speed? [Re: Slick Wilhelm]  
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As far as I know these older aeroplanes were not so heavy (fabric and wood) and they have had double wings. So I can imagine, that ther were more sensitive to wind, thermal and so on. And so it is more difficult to hold the position / formation. And not to forget the early engines (rotary motor). Perhaps the AI-behaviour simulates all these factors in every flight with every aeroplane, without differences. But it's only a supposition of mine.

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