#4550646 - 01/04/21 03:15 PM
Re: Dad forces hungry 9 yo daughter struggle for 6 hours opening a can of beans
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He was being a jerk, yes. But I wouldn't go so far as to call it child abuse. If for no other reason than that doing so puts what he did on somewhat a par with those who beat, or intentionally starve their children, or subject them to real psychological cruelty. What he did was miss his opportunity to be the "apocalypse dad" he thought he was being, and turned a simple lesson in self-reliance (and kitchen tool use) into a (semi) traumatic experience for both of them.
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#4550662 - 01/04/21 05:17 PM
Re: Dad forces hungry 9 yo daughter struggle for 6 hours opening a can of beans
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Don't cans have ring pulls on them in the US ? I haven't seen a can that needs a can opener in years.
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#4550663 - 01/04/21 05:18 PM
Re: Dad forces hungry 9 yo daughter struggle for 6 hours opening a can of beans
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I wouldn't classify the exercise as quite being child abuse either, but without knowing all the circumstances, it does seem a bit extreme. It might just have been exactly what she needed though...
I wonder if she thought of searching on the internet for how to do it, and if so, did he forbid that resource?
Analyzing how a fairly simple tool works, spatial relationships, and anger management are valuable skills to have, and do not come naturally to some people. Based on his description, he didn't just say "figure it out" and abandon her. He provided guidance on how to approach the problem methodically.
What I do find to be questionable judgement on his part was posting about it on the internet. While he probably viewed it as good parenting to lead her through the process, publically posting about it was potentially embarassing to his daughter... and in a way that sticks around as "the internet is forever".
BTW, there are two ways to use those rotary handle manual can openers to open a can.
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#4550670 - 01/04/21 05:41 PM
Re: Dad forces hungry 9 yo daughter struggle for 6 hours opening a can of beans
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Don't cans have ring pulls on them in the US ? I haven't seen a can that needs a can opener in years. I'd say that 80-90% of the tins I use - Beans, Kidney Beans, Soup and Peaches are sealed tins, needing an opener. Only a smaller proportion use a ring-pull. (UK, south) The supermarkets are full of tins which do have ring pulls on them, but not on the products and brands I typically prefer (I find 'big label' brands to have more salt and sugar than I prefer, and the lower cost ones which have the cheaper style tin too, suit my palette better - I only buy them if the normal brands I buy are sold out and I really want to restock the cupboard with a few.
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#4550672 - 01/04/21 05:57 PM
Re: Dad forces hungry 9 yo daughter struggle for 6 hours opening a can of beans
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What I do find to be questionable judgement on his part was posting about it on the internet. While he probably viewed it as good parenting to lead her through the process, publically posting about it was potentially embarassing to his daughter... and in a way that sticks around as "the internet is forever". Not to mention the fact that these days ANYTHING posted on the internet is liable to draw a firestorm of criticism. I think he owed it to her to at least walk her through the process Exactly. What seems to need no explanation to most people does so only because they have forgotten that it needed to be explained to them the first time, too. Just like the phrase "natural as walking". It's only natural after weeks of practice and falling. I was never a fan of electric can openers, either. It seemed that, more often than not, the can would slip and release pressure on the switch, sometimes even falling and spilling. Personally, my favorite was the trusty, rusty, P38 that was in every box of C-Rats. Kept one on my keychain. Never met a can they couldn't open. Also very useful as a flat or Phillips screwdriver. And I never had to hunt for it because someone didn't put it back where it belonged.
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#4550682 - 01/04/21 06:36 PM
Re: Dad forces hungry 9 yo daughter struggle for 6 hours opening a can of beans
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By his Tweet I think he didn't bother to show her. My Dad and Ma always show us how to do something first and then let us try it. He better not teach his kids how to drive. Exactly show the kid how to do it. Maybe give the kid 10 to 15 minutes to try and figure it out. Tormenting the kid for 6 hours while she is hungery is abuse IMO. I remember my Dad teaching me how to use one of these when I was 5.
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#4550696 - 01/04/21 07:50 PM
Re: Dad forces hungry 9 yo daughter struggle for 6 hours opening a can of beans
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P-38 opener. Also called a “John Wayne”
Simple, small, folds flat; —- always works.
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