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#4546748 - 12/01/20 07:50 PM Anyone here collect or own vintage watches or clocks ?  
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#4546749 - 12/01/20 08:03 PM Re: Anyone here collect or own vintage watches or clocks ? [Re: Mark Aisthorpe]  
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Fascinating stuff indeed and I knew a bit about the use of radium in early 20th century watches and clocks.


Radium is quite scary stuff indeed,


"Radium is highly radioactive, and its immediate daughter, radon gas, is also radioactive. When ingested, 80% of the ingested radium leaves the body through the feces, while the other 20% goes into the bloodstream, mostly accumulating in the bones.[11] Exposure to radium, internal or external, can cause cancer and other disorders, because radium and radon emit alpha and gamma rays upon their decay, which kill and mutate cells."


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#4546756 - 12/01/20 09:13 PM Re: Anyone here collect or own vintage watches or clocks ? [Re: Mark Aisthorpe]  
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I have a couple of vintage watches, but none so old as to have radium lume. My oldest one is a gold Patek Philippe after my grandfather, from the late 40s or early 50s, but without lume on the markers. Then there is an old IWC and a couple of Omegas, and I have an interesting one that is about to be restored; A Bulova Accutron 214, with a tuning-fork movement.

Then there are my more modern Omegas, a Speedmaster (even if that’s an old design), Seamaster and my most recently acquired one, a Railmaster.

https://www.watchuseek.com/attachments/1833ae9e-534b-4018-8473-24161d5d0a0d-jpeg.15568179/


In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
#4546757 - 12/01/20 09:18 PM Re: Anyone here collect or own vintage watches or clocks ? [Re: Mark Aisthorpe]  
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Oh boy.

Soviet Russia painted apartments with the stuff--that explains a lot.

#4546760 - 12/01/20 09:47 PM Re: Anyone here collect or own vintage watches or clocks ? [Re: Mark Aisthorpe]  
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Quite a lot of WWII-era cockpit instruments also used radium on hands and dials for luminescense. I have seen and heard a Geiger counter go mad near one. It is important to be careful when opening such instruments, as the dust that collects inside can pick up radium particles that you then breathe in.


In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
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I only have one vintage watch, a gold Tudor Royal that was given to my Grandad for 20 years service at Firestone tyres in 1967.
It doesn't have any luminescence though fortunately, just an off white face with gold hands and numbers.

The bit that shocked me the most was the Soviet bunkers and flats. If we had tried to invade during the cold war we wouldn't have needed to use tactical nukes at the borders seeing as the soviet troops were already cooking in their bunkers.


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#4546789 - 12/02/20 02:49 AM Re: Anyone here collect or own vintage watches or clocks ? [Re: Mark Aisthorpe]  
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I have some old Vostok watches from the Soviet Union. Do you think they are radium?


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#4546796 - 12/02/20 07:05 AM Re: Anyone here collect or own vintage watches or clocks ? [Re: ArgonV]  
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Originally Posted by ArgonV
I have some old Vostok watches from the Soviet Union. Do you think they are radium?


Not if they’re the Komandirskie style. Like this one?

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In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
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A Great aunt of mine suffered from 'Mouth Rot' losing part of her tongue and mandible, during the first World War.
She painted luminous dials for aircraft, clocks, watches and other instruments in a small London factory.
The condition was caused by the common practice to get a fine tip on the brush for this delicate intricate work was constant drawing across the tongue during the painting process.
I gather from other sources that this action was forbidden by the employers, but not enforced as the girls and supervisors were on piece-work pay rates and this dangerous practice sped up output and accuracy.
The irony is that my Grandmother said her sister worked there as the alternative employment in the Woolwich Arsenal munition works was deemed to dangerous!



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Originally Posted by BD-123
A Great aunt of mine suffered from 'Mouth Rot' losing part of her tongue and mandible, during the first World War.
She painted luminous dials for aircraft, clocks, watches and other instruments in a small London factory.
The condition was caused by the common practice to get a fine tip on the brush for this delicate intricate work was constant drawing across the tongue during the painting process.
I gather from other sources that this action was forbidden by the employers, but not enforced as the girls and supervisors were on piece-work pay rates and this dangerous practice sped up output and accuracy.
The irony is that my Grandmother said her sister worked there as the alternative employment in the Woolwich Arsenal munition works was deemed to dangerous!


There are some very well documented cases,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls


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#4547009 - 12/03/20 11:26 PM Re: Anyone here collect or own vintage watches or clocks ? [Re: semmern]  
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Originally Posted by semmern
Not if they’re the Komandirskie style. Like this one?


Thanks! I have several of the CCCP marked era ones of the Komandirskie and Amphibian 200m (self-winding and non).


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