I wont get my hopes up. Such things tend to get ruined with modern sensibilities these days. Maybe they will at least treat Grissom better than the original movie did (love the movie in all other respects).
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I'm very skeptical, and highly doubt they'll dare portray these astronauts in the masculine, manly way they deserve to be. This is doubly so because Disney is producing the show. Disney... Let that sink in. They aren't the Disney we know from 30 years ago. My 10 year old Daughter is forbidden from watching several of their shows.
F4U--right on about Gus, that'd be nice. He wasn't such a bad guy.
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Oh yeah! Been a few years since I’ve watched the movie now, and hearing that theme immediately got me fired up to watch it again soon! Love that movie.
In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
One thing about the movie was the near perfect casting.
Ed Harris IS John Glenn. Scott Glenn IS Al Shepard. Dennis Quaid IS Gordo Cooper.
As much as I love the mini series "From The Earth to The Moon" I never bought the actors as the characters they play as much as I did The Right Stuff actors.
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I love the Right Stuff movie. I agree with and share the sentiments and concerns about this National Geographic/Disney thing. The special effects will likely be nice but I already get an unnatural and non-genuine sterilized vibe from that trailer. We've lost a certain caliber of actor too in this later generation in my opinion. Actors like Fred Ward, Scott Glenn, Sam Shepard, Levon Helm and so forth. Same too with many of the actresses such as Barbara Hershey and Veronica Cartwright. It was also special having General Yeager there at Poncho's being the real deal and also being from that special generation. They all made the movie. I've always loved Fred Ward and liked him as Gus but I agree that it would be nice to see Gus Grissom treated with due respect and accuracy.
If anyone's interested, I recently found a cool video of a short talk Sam Shepard gave recounting an experience he had while making the movie where he tells a great story about his bringing his own horse to the movie to ride for the Poncho scenes and his interaction with the real old time cowboy/stuntmen there working on the movie.
I just want an accurate film. Not a cold war hero epoch, not a flick about the writer his biases, but one that does proud to reality and one that can stand in line with the amazing Apollo 11 movie from last year. So far, I haven’t seen anything to doubt otherwise about the movie, PWEC crowd’s prejudices standing aside. Uncalled for. Don’t do that.
I just want an accurate film. Not a cold war hero epoch, not a flick about the writer his biases, but one that does proud to reality and one that can stand in line with the amazing Apollo 13 movie from last year. So far, I haven’t seen anything to doubt otherwise about the movie, PWEC crowd’s prejudices standing aside.
Cold war heroism was an integral part of the program. It was a reason for the project's existence, and an expectation demanded of those astronauts. An accurate film can not ignore that.
This can be debated. Wouldn't the program be cancelled if Kennedy wasn't assassinated/martyred? US space programs before, during Apollo (cancelling the program immediately after Apollo 11 landed) and after suggest so.
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an expectation demanded of those astronauts. An accurate film can not ignore that.
If we look at the accounts of the people involved, ego played a bigger role than bravado, just like any human program ever. The only account i've ever seen of "us vs. them" in the Apollo program (or all NASA human spaceflight programs up to Apollo for that matter), was from Frank Borman in this interview: https://historycollection.jsc.nasa....l_histories/BormanF/Bormanff_4-13-99.htm . All other sources speak of "just wanting to be the best of the best" and "just having the ego of feeling immortal"
There is no debate. Historically the space program was integral to America's Cold War fight against Soviet Russia.
This is fact.
I read some of a recent interview of Frank Borman (Gemini 7 / Apollo 8 Commander). He said the Moon never interested him, he didn't talk about seeing the Moon up close to anyone when he came back from Apollo 8. He just didn't care, he had an opportunity to walk on the Moon if he wanted it but he quit the program once the Russians were beat because THAT was all that mattered to him.
That's what Apollo was about, beating the Russians. not the science, not the adventure, nothing like that just beating the Russians period.
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Originally Posted by Vaderini
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It was a reason for the project's existence,
This can be debated.
There is no debate. Historically the space program was integral to America's Cold War fight against Soviet Russia.
This is fact.
I read some of a recent interview of Frank Borman (Gemini 7 / Apollo 8 Commander). He said the Moon never interested him, he didn't talk about seeing the Moon up close to anyone when he came back from Apollo 8. He just didn't care, he had an opportunity to walk on the Moon if he wanted it but he quit the program once the Russians were beat because THAT was all that mattered to him.
That's what Apollo was about, beating the Russians. not the science, not the adventure, nothing like that just beating the Russians period.
Everything stated by F4U and Blastman is 100% accurate.
It also explains why relatively speaking, the US space program has really gone nowhere since the Cold War ended. The main impetus is long gone.
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Finally started the show! quite good and I would give it a rating of 7.5 out of 10 after 6 episodes. The rating should be higher considering they had a larger slate to work with to show more depth of the characters, but they seemed to spend time on a lot of cliches of pilots and such. I say check it out. IMHO, YMMV