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#4543236 - 11/03/20 02:13 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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AMD Radeon RX 6000 series to support games with Microsoft DXR and Vulkan ray tracing APIs

"AMD will support all ray tracing titles using industry-based standards, including the Microsoft DXR API and the upcoming Vulkan raytracing API. Games making of use of proprietary raytracing APIs and extensions will not be supported" — AMD Marketing

AMD has made a commitment to stick to industry standards, such as Microsoft DXR or Vulkan ray tracing APIs. Both should slowly become more popular, as the focus goes away from NVIDIA’s implementation. After all, Intel will support DirectX DXR as well, so developers will have even less reason to focus on NVIDIA’s implementation.


AMD actively/outspokenly supports "industry standards" vs. "proprietary" -- so the above note from AMD marketing was expected.


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#4543380 - 11/04/20 02:35 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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AMD (NASDAQ: AMD) Shares Soar as Goldman Sachs Adds the Chipmaker To Its Conviction List on the Back of “Multi-Year Share Gain and Margin Expansion Story”

While noting a 17 percent pullback from recent highs and the attendant attractive valuation currently, Goldman Sachs analyst Toshiya Hari upgraded AMD shares from a ‘Neutral’ to a ‘Buy’ designation while also raising the stock price target from $84 to $96.

The Goldman analyst termed AMD a "multi-year share gain and margin expansion story". Moreover, Hari cited recent checks, which point toward strong H1 2021 PC fundamentals, in order to predict "design win/share gain momentum in the client and commercial PC space" for AMD.


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#4543532 - 11/05/20 02:05 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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My Ryzen 7 5800X is on the way to packaging -- shipping today from New Jersey -- arriving Monday or Tuesday -- they say at Newegg.

Update: 50 minutes after the above, they are sold out at Newegg and Amazon. Glad I "jumped on one".

My invoice says I bought at 9:02am. My tracking number email came at 2:30. Many were not so lucky.

Hope I'm equally lucky on my GPU purchase.

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AMD Ryzen 5000 Vermeer (Zen3) Review Roundup


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#4543604 - 11/05/20 10:30 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: Allen]  
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Originally Posted by Allen
My Ryzen 7 5800X is on the way to packaging -- shipping today from New Jersey -- arriving Monday or Tuesday -- they say at Newegg.

Update: 50 minutes after the above, they are sold out at Newegg and Amazon. Glad I "jumped on one".

My invoice says I bought at 9:02am. My tracking number email came at 2:30. Many were not so lucky.

Hope I'm equally lucky on my GPU purchase.


All UK stock disappeared in less than 10 minutes with some major retailer sites crashing under the strain. It was no better than the 30x Nvidia series debacle however I also managed to snatch a 5800x and topped the order off later on with 32GB of Trident Z 3600MHz RAM and a 1TB Gen 4 NVMe M2 drive. Just the 6800XT or 6900XT to finish off the build.

In the UK more Ryzen 5000 series CPUs are allegedly arriving at the end of the month, the earliest pre-order dates I've seen are for 27th November.


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#4543608 - 11/05/20 11:21 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: Paradaz]  
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Originally Posted by Paradaz
All UK stock disappeared in less than 10 minutes with some major retailer sites crashing under the strain. It was no better than the 30x Nvidia series debacle however I also managed to snatch a 5800x and topped the order off later on with 32GB of Trident Z 3600MHz RAM and a 1TB Gen 4 NVMe M2 drive. Just the 6800XT or 6900XT to finish off the build..


I literally was thinking of you as I bought mine. I figured you would "get it done". 32GB sounds good in this day and age -- now that we're going to 16 or 20GB on graphics cards. The NVMe makes perfect sense -- I notice the difference in gaming loads/saves. Now, on to the GPU lottery smile


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#4543725 - 11/06/20 02:46 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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ASUS Warns of Low AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT Stock at Launch, Custom AIB Models Arrive 1-2 Weeks Later

Previously, retailers had reported that the AMD Radeon RX 6000 series graphics cards would have limited stock at launch. The stock issues were reportedly more specific to the Radeon RX 6900 XT which is going to be an AMD exclusive variant for the time being. However, newer reports suggest that even the Radeon RX 6800 XT supply would be very limited and AIB partners are expecting the stock to be sold out within minutes of the launch.


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#4543930 - 11/07/20 08:13 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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FWIW: My Ryzen 7 5800X came early. I benched it using 3 accepted benchmarks -- versus my Ryzen 7 3800X. Tested both at stock BIOS settings (absolutely no tweaks) -- except BIOS set for my 3.2GHz memory in both cases.

My results were in keeping with what seems the normal improvement range for 5800X vs 3800X. My results with my system -- other systems and other tests will vary.

Single Core CPU Benchmarks: 5800X is 23% faster than 3800X.

Multi-threaded CPU Benchmarks: 5800X is 15% faster than 3800X.

Gaming Benchmark FPS at 2K and 4K: The increase in graphics FPS is tiny -- substantially less than 1FPS.

I assumed I'd get no FPS increase -- as noted, there was a tiny, tiny one -- close enough (to no increase) for government work smile

Presumably, there will be a slightly larger FPS increase when paring with an RX6800XT GPU due to the special synergy between R7 5800X CPU and RX 6800XT GPU. But, I won't be taking my system back to R7 3800X to test that smile


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#4544010 - 11/08/20 12:04 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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To activate all the features of Ryzen 5000 series CPUs nominally requires a 500 series motherboard. However:

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AMD Board Partners Showcase Ryzen 5000 Desktop CPUs Running on A320 & X370 Motherboards, Selective BETA-BIOS For ASUS & Gigabyte B450 Motherboards Out Now

he report comes from various forums where users have already got access to BETA BIOS for the A320 & X370 motherboards which allows support for AMD Ryzen 5000 Desktop CPUs. According to a member of Chiphell Forums, the AMD 300-series motherboards can fully support the Ryzen 5000 series processors and one such sample has been shown running on an entry-level ASRock A320M-HDV motherboard.

PCIe Gen 4 disabled [on 300 series motherboards]


Thus, maybe those boards do not actually 'fully support" all features. We'll see as more reports come in.


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#4544030 - 11/08/20 02:38 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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I notice the R7 5800X is now selling for $300 more than I paid -- i.e. $749 vs. $449.

After contacting Newegg customer service by "chat", I was able to get my free copy of Far Cry 6. Folks who bought immediately were not all given Far Cry 6 -- just an error they are painlessly (for the customer) correcting.


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#4544447 - 11/11/20 01:25 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Apparently, 5nm is next and to provide another big jump in performance. I personally don't expect 5nm before 2022 -- but, it would be a nice surprise if we saw it late next year.

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AMD Committed To Offering Massive Perf Per Watt Gains With Next-Gen RDNA 3 Radeon RX GPU Lineup, Will Take Full Advantage of 5nm Process Node For Zen 4

[AMD's Executive Vice President, Rick Bergman] talked about both the current generation RDNA 2 & the next-gen RDNA 3 GPUs. For RDNA 3, AMD says that they will be leveraging more advanced process nodes and using Infinity Cache in a more proficient way to allow for similar gains which we saw when moving from RDNA 1 to RDNA 2. According to AMD's claims, RDNA 2 based Radeon RX GPUs deliver a 50% perf per watt improvement over their predecessors and AMD promises us to expect similar gains with the third generation RDNA GPU architecture.

For Zen 4, Rick acknowledges that just like RDNA 3, the next-gen CPU architecture will be making full use of the 5nm process node but will also get carried by an improved branch prediction unit, cache subsystem, a number of gates, core count increases, clock speeds and overall IPC gains from the improvement architecture. AMD's next-gen Ryzen CPUs based on the Zen 4 architecture will be the first to feature support on the AM5 socket and are expected to adopt DDR5 memory

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#4544469 - 11/11/20 11:18 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Regarding AMD Future competition, Apple is replacing x86 CPUs with their own design ARM CPUs -- mostly, this affects Intel today.

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In Massive Shift, Apple Announces New Macs With [5nm] ARM-Based M1 Chip

Apple has unveiled its first computers with the new Apple-designed ARM chips instead of Intel CPUs. Apple saw huge success the last time it switched architectures — from PowerPC to x86 — but this time?

Apple has seen great success with its custom ARM-based chips in iPhones and iPads, and now it’s bringing the same technology to its computers. The Apple M1 is a 5nm ARM chip that has a lot in common with the A14 Bionic from the latest iDevices. This is a system-on-a-chip (SoC), so you’ve got the CPU cores, GPU, I/O, security module, and more on a single chip. That should mean much higher efficiency compared with x86 Intel CPUs, and indeed, Apple is claiming some impressive gains.


This seems to be all about power use in laptops -- not computation speed. No genuine hard facts from Apple yet.

There is some vague evidence that: Although these 5nm chips beat Intel products for power use efficiency, they do not beat the new 7nm Zen 3. And, 5nm Zen 4 is on the way -- in a couple years.


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#4544631 - 11/12/20 10:26 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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The "Big Navi" Reference models launch next Wednesday. Being "Reference Models", they all look virtually the same from all the manufacturers.

Attached Files ASUS-Radeon-RX-6800-XT-16GB-RX6800XT-16G-Graphics-Card1.jpgMSI-Radeon-RX-6800XT-16GB-Graphics-Card1.jpg

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AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT Reportedly Overclocks Beyond 2.5 GHz, Performance Matches The RTX 3090


Rumor/leak. We'll see in less than a week.That is overclocked performance.

Running at standard speeds RX 6800 XT is an RTX3080 competitor.


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#4544893 - 11/14/20 11:25 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Another leak using a Benchmark not all agree with. So, another "we'll see" (in less than a week).

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AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Non-XT) 16 GB Graphics Card Benchmarked in Basemark, Faster Than The GeForce RTX 3070

The AMD Radeon RX 6800 is an impressive graphics card at least on paper (for now). We are still a week away from knowing its full performance potential against its GeForce RTX 30 series rivals but benchmarks have been leaking every now and then which shows us that the graphics card is going to knock out the RTX 3070 with twice the memory and surprisingly powerful graphics performance in gaming titles.




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AMD's 3rd Gen EPYC Milan 'Zen 3' CPUs On Track, Will Be Launching in Q1 2021

AMD states that more companies are now showing interest in EPYC CPUs compared to Intel's own Xeon lineup. Within the HPC industry, favorable perception of AMD EPYC CPUs has risen from 36% in 2016 to 78% in 2020 while 68% of the HPC users hold a favorable view of Intel's next-gen Xeon CPUs.


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Tomorrow the RX6800 and RX6800XT reference cards from various manufacturers hit the market. I assume they will sell out in minutes.

Since buyers have to pick a brand name (not just say "reference card"), the brand name one picks will have an impact -- i.e. what if they only have two in stock and you are the third buyer?

Also, I have an immovable meeting on the schedule tomorrow morning (I tried to move it). So, my odds of getting a GPU tomorrow are low.

On the other hand, my RX5700XT plays everything I play (except MSFS2020) at 4K ultra settings. Thus, the world will not end for me if I fail tomorrow -- and there will be more choices in a few weeks smile

Good luck to those of you who give buying one a try tomorrow smile


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Chances are slim to none. It's rumoured there's less stock than the Nvidia RTX 30x series here in the UK and some of those people still waiting on those cards will be attempting to muscle in on the action too. I'm pretty much resigned to buying a 3090 as there is stock however don't really fancy paying the premium if I can help it.


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I failed. Off to my meeting.


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They've only just gone 'live' in the UK at 1430hrs GMT......straight to pre-order. Must only have been a handful


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