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#4541386 - 10/19/20 12:28 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The wings are supported by a strut assembly over the cockpit.
The kit supplied struts are intended to be 'butt' glued together at the top and into shallow recesses in the fuselage sides.
Not a very satisfactory assembly and probably not really strong enough to take the weight of the solid wings with rigging.
Therefore I've replaced them with aero-shaped tubing with 0.4 mm diameter rods for locating into the fuselage.
The whole assembly is soft soldered for strength,

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#4541465 - 10/19/20 05:39 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
I've added the bungee type suspension cord to the axle ends, using 'EZ' heavy line (white).
Also the half hoops at the axle ends, inboard from the base of the undercarriage struts.
Made from annealed 0.4 mm diameter rod.

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#4541764 - 10/21/20 08:53 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi All,
I've been working on the undersides of the Bristol, which had the lined doped in light blue to help reflect the heat whilst operating in Mesopotamia.
First was to prime grey then mask off the wing ribs and fuselage longerons.

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Then pre-shade using 'Tamiya' Smoke (XF19).

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Lightly overspray with 'Tamiya' Light Blue (XF23).

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Then remove all masking and a final light top coat of the light blue.

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The propeller assembly was done at the same time.

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Now it's onto painting to top surfaces with PC10, which the 'Windsock' data file suggest would be correct (not the brown PC12 often used).

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#4541825 - 10/22/20 03:00 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The underside of the wings and fuselage were said to be a light blue colour, in order to reduce the absorbed heat reflected from the ground.
It is thought the propeller spinner was of the same colour.
The colour of the upper surfaces has been depicted as either a red/brown (PC 12) or an olive green (early PC10).
The kit instructions and most colour profiles have the PC12 colour.
However, the ‘Windsock’ Data file No:52 colour profile is PC10.
As always the definition of colours from early monochrome photographs has always been problematic and the shade differences between PC10 and PC12 are no exception.
The ’Windsock’ Data file states that it is possible that these aircraft were painted with PC12 when routed through the aircraft depot at Salonika, Greece.
However, it was more likely the colour of aircraft operated in Macedonia was PC10, with the possible exception of No.72 Squadron.
I decided to use the PC10 colour, based on the ‘Windsock’ data.
The paint used was 'Hataka' lacquer Dark Olive Green (C301).

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#4542007 - 10/23/20 08:30 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
I've replaced the kit supplied Vickers Mk.1 machine gun with one from 'GasPatch'.
The actual aircraft had a ring site fitted to the weapon, which wasn't on the kit part, so I used a spare from a 'Wingnut Wings' Sopwith Camel kit,

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#4542013 - 10/23/20 09:17 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Seeks looking real smart Mike. I must confess, I was very familiar with this aircraft. It seems she really wasn’t given a chance.


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#4542104 - 10/24/20 08:15 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi Mark,
Yes you're right, it was a good aircraft that could have earned a more prominent place in the history of the RFC-RAF.

Extract from my build log:

In 1916, while at the British & Colonial Aeroplane Co. Ltd, based at Filton, Bristol, England, Capt. F.S. Barnwell designed a monoplane fighter which was designated the Bristol M.1a.
The first prototype flew on the 14th of July 1916 and its speed and overall performance were impressive at that time.
At that time the Air Ministry did not favour monoplane designs, due in part to several fatal crashes of monoplane designs in the past.
However, one prototype was ordered with four more modified to the M.1b standard, which were fitted with various engines.
One of these aircraft was combat tested by some French squadrons.
General H. Trenchard, commander of the Royal Flying Corps (RFC) in France refused to accept the aircraft into frontline use.
However, the commander of the RFC in the Middle East, General W.H.G Salmont accepted three M.1b aircraft for evaluation in that theatre of war.
Based on the experiences of the evaluation the final version of this aircraft, the M.1c was put into production under contract No: A.S. 8236.
A total of 125 aircraft were built, powered by the Le Rhöne 9J rotary engine, although only 32 saw active service.
These aircraft operated in the Middle East theatre with No.111 Squadron (Palestine), No.17 and 47 Squadrons (Macedonia), which were to become part of No.150 Squadron in 1918 and with No.72 Squadron (Mesopotamia).
There were some victories scored by M.1c fighters operated by No.17 and 150 Squadrons.
The bulk of the aircraft were used in the flight training role, both in Egypt and England and some were sent to Chile as compensation for Chilean ships confiscated by the British.
Some were even purchased privately by individuals at the cessation of hostilities.

Hi all,
I decided to employ the same technique I used for the Ansaldo 'Baby' and create the linen effect using the 'Aviattic' weave effect decal (ATT32236).
This was not an easy task for the fuselage, as it has a round section which also tapers towards the rear of the fuselage.
This meant that I couldn't apply the decal as large pieces, as they would have folded and creased as they were applied towards the tapered rear of the fuselage.
Instead I had to cut multiple paper templates to span only two fuselage longerons at a time.
Then trace these templates onto the decal sheet, cut out the decals and apply them one by one, which took 9 hours.
However I think the effect may have justified the effort.
Now it's onto the wings, ailerons, fin, tailplanes and elevators, which should be easier,

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#4542109 - 10/24/20 09:34 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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I'm visiting this thread after every post, now that I can see the pictures in Firefox. Lovely work, Sandbagger.

I learned recently that the Bristol M1 might have turned the tide of the air war but for the real "Lions led by Donkey's" stupidity of the British Air establishment and government.
The quote below is from Alex Revell's book, 'Fighter Aces: The Constable Maxwell Brothers.'

"There were a number of Bristol MC 1 monoplanes at Ayr. (edit - in early 1918) This excellent little fighter had been designed by Frank Barnwell in the early summer of 1916, the prototype first flying in July of that year. Its speed for the time was amazing – a phenomenal 132 mph. At a time when the little Bristol could have gained supremacy of the air for the RFC, long before the appearance of the Camel or SE5, stupidity and prejudice in high quarters condemned it. Rumours of its performance had penetrated into the RFC messes in 1916 and it was eagerly awaited by pilots who were fighting and dying in inferior aeroplanes; but it was never put into full squadron service, only a few examples going to Palestine in 1917 and others to Macedonia and Mesopotamia. At Ayr the Bristols were the personal mounts of some of the instructors and Gerald first flew one on 3 April, judging it ‘Very nice’. The following day he flew it again in a mock combat with an SE5 and a Camel. He was more enthusiastic about this second flight: ‘Monoplane is the nicest machine I have ever flown’, and on 5 April he fought another mock combat, this time against his fellow instructor, Foggin. ‘Self on SE and he (Foggin) on monoplane. I could not do anything against him as the mono outzooms an SE everytime.’

"The implications of this casual statement are staggering. An aeroplane which could have been in front line service in the autumn of 1916, in the era of the DH2 and FE8, was still, over eighteen months later, outflying the latest equipment of the fighter squadrons in France."

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#4542123 - 10/24/20 11:05 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Yes - you have to wonder 'what if'.

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#4542166 - 10/25/20 01:24 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Indeed. Egos, personal interests, and in some cases blind stupidity, made for a much longer war.

Beautiful craftsmanship as always Mike - simply marvelous!

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Originally Posted by Sandbagger
...Then trace these templates onto the decal sheet, cut out the decals and apply them one by one, which took 9 hours.


The effort that you put into the details...that's perhaps the most remarkable part to me. And the finished product always shows that effort.

#4542201 - 10/25/20 06:26 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Mike you are really going the distance for historical look and it has paid off in my opinion.

Have you taken any of your recent work to shows or are they all cancelled due to Covid-19


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#4542209 - 10/25/20 08:13 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hello,

Does anyone know how many victories the Bristol M1 variants scored during WW1?


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Rugbyfan, hopefully one of our experts here has this info. In the meantime, there is this tidbit from Wikipedia on the subject, offering further indication of just how far ahead of its time the M.1 really was:

"Perhaps the most successful M.1C pilot amongst those that served on the Macedonian front was Captain Frederick Dudley Travers DFC of No. 150 Squadron RAF, who became the only ace on this type. Travers switched from the Royal Aircraft Factory SE.5a, in which he had scored three of his four kills, and scored the last five of his victories between 2 and 16 September 1918, possibly all in the same M.1C, serial number C4976. One of his victims was a Fokker D.VII, widely regarded as the best German fighter of its day."

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Hi all,
All decals applied now and weathering done.
Weathering is a mix of 'Flory' Grime clay wash, 'Tamiya' Weathering Master Set A, C and D (Gunmetal, Mud, Sand) and 'AK Interactive' enamel wash (Kerosene 2039 and Engine oil 2019).
All seal in with 'Alclad' Light Sheen lacquer (ALC311).

Now onto construction and rigging,

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#4542554 - 10/28/20 09:46 PM Re: Bristol M1.c 'Bullet' [Re: Sandbagger]  
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Hi all,
The back end has now been rigged with rudder and elevator control lines and fin cross bracing.
Also the ailerons control lines are done, as is the undercarriage cross bracing.
Now it's onto fitting and rigging the wings,

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Hi all,
The Bristol M1.c is finished now, although I still have the figures and display base to do.
The shot below (minus propeller and spinner) is of the wing rigging, which turned out to be more difficult than I had hoped.
Having built monoplanes before, I didn't anticipate how tricky it would be to fit the wings.

The actual aircraft had a wing dihedral angle of between 2 and 3.5 degrees.
However the two locating lugs at the root of each wing are woefully inadequate.
The wings are moulded a single, solid pieces, so are quite heavy.
Test fitting both wings into their locating holes in the fuselage proved useless as the both wings sagged down badly.
I couldn't drill into the wing roots and through the fuselage to add metal rod 'spars for additional support (as I've done before on mono-planes).
They would have crossed through and been visible in the cockpit.
Therefore I decided to fit the flying and landing wires as the wings were fitted.
In that way the wires actually supported the wings onto the over cockpit support frame, which I'd made from brass tubing.

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Rather complicated wing fitting. Do you feel that it is appropriately secure?
It sounds rather fragile Mike.

Looks great though and a very fine looking model.

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Hi Rob,
Yeah it should be.
The wings are cemented into the fuselage.
The rigging is over 2kg breaking strain mono-filament.
Hope you're feeling a lot better.

Hi all,
I've finished the mechanic, who will be pulling the propeller to prime the engine.
I wanted him to look grubby and oil stained.
Painted with 'Tamiya' and 'AK Interactive' acrylics.
Weathered with 'Flory Models' clay wash and 'Tamiya' Weathering Master Sets A, D and C.

Now it's onto the pilot,

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Mike that is a super fine weathering on the mechanic!!

What about a little of that oil splashed on to the boots??

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