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#4540516 - 10/12/20 03:01 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: rwatson]  
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#4540519 - 10/12/20 03:21 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: rwatson]  
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Most of the younger folks are absorbed in the social media cesspool I am afraid.

It's too bad, as I know many of us dinosaurs have lots of good knowledge we are happy to share if asked.

I am happy to say I have helped a couple of young kids, just out of high school, successfully navigate the student aid obstacle course.

Most just know better and wonder what an old fart like me knows...which is lots compared to them and many of the college "advisors". Oh well, I try.




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#4540522 - 10/12/20 03:27 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: rwatson]  
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I think most of us grew up on G.I.Joe´s and those cool sub/tank/ and Kelly´s Heroes movies. My late dad loved those movies so I saw them too as a youngster. Give me some heavy forest and a branch that looked like a rifle and we would make the best of warfare in a back yard! Add the Boy Scouts and C.A.P. (Civil Air Patrol) and there you have it. As Mark stated, it was cool and quite hype at the time.

Now it seems that kids just want to run n gun, fast game to pick up with little real learning to them. They seem in a hurry to live and want to do it easy and with alot of money!

Another of my hobbies is the outdoor life, Bushcraft, wild camping, mountaneering in general. Most reactions of the younger generation I have taken out for a hike have been "I have to climb that", "is there a way to get there by car", or "how long to the next water source" biggrin So now I go alone!

No discipline at all, maybe because I was in the Legion when young, or the Boy Scouts even younger then that but man, some young ones are lazy as hell!

As for forums, I think that the whole social media has actually backfired on the concept because people are less communicative now then they have ever been! In my days, if you didn´t want to go out on a Friday night, in less then a half hour you had half your friends at your door waiting for you to get dressed, no excuses excepted! Now with a simple msg. your staying home and bored as hell with your loneliness and on the verge of a depression because you got no likes on your recent post/video!

The only good thing of smartphones is the addition of GPS, and a camera. The rest I would eliminate forever!

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#4540528 - 10/12/20 03:46 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG
I've given this more thought, and why I appreciate the older demographics here...

A young man is not going to relate to:

- constantly having your heroes dying off, whether a guitar god or military man, or even family and friends. Happens to everyone of course, but not nearly so concentrated as when you get older.

- the challenges (and rewards) of keeping the sparks flying in a 20 or 30 or more year-old romantic relationship.

- a time when military aircraft was hot stuff on TV and in the movies, as well as influences of the Cold War and then the Gulf Wars. Also a time when PC stores had entire shelves dedicated to flight sims. There was something for everyone, and the various flight sim sub-forums here were bustling with discussions.


I miss that last item, as the classic sim boards that I heavily participated on were eventually archived into the sunset. Other than a generic flight sim sub-forum, this left me with Community Hall (which I mostly avoided my first few years here, forget about PWEC if it even existed then) and the newer Music board. But then an age 41 health scare in 2008 gave me a major shift in priorities that I'm still trying to balance today.


It would be nice to be able to pass on some of the "tribal knowledge" while its still around.

It would also be nice to be able to generate at least some new activity.

I also think that simming will experience something of renaissance when VR tech sufficiently matures, and so if this were my board I'd want to be poised to take advantage of that.

#4540529 - 10/12/20 03:49 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: rwatson]  
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There's a commercial on TV, maybe for Geico, and one of the actors asks another

'You know who else reads books about submarines?"

and the guy says "My dad"

Well that's me now lol.

Where does the time go? And sub books are awesome, off my lawn with you.


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#4540534 - 10/12/20 04:11 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
It would be nice to be able to pass on some of the "tribal knowledge" while its still around.

It would also be nice to be able to generate at least some new activity.

I also think that simming will experience something of renaissance when VR tech sufficiently matures, and so if this were my board I'd want to be poised to take advantage of that.


Hope it helps. The one VR experience I had was Star Wars X-fighter on a console a few years back. Cool stuff.

My most enjoyment flight simming was doing my part in the ultra-modern Eurofighter with trying to keep the Russians from conquering the Scandinavian peninsula. I don't remember which southern Norwegian airbase it was, but if you lost it to the Russians you lost AWACS support, and then you were blind for the rest of the campaign which wouldn't last much longer.



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#4540570 - 10/12/20 07:59 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: rwatson]  
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VR is still niche right now but once prices come down it will be a bit more widespread. I like to compare VR with the full blown HOTAS setup. PC flight simmers are a niche and then when you realize that not all flight simmers use a HOTAS then you realize it is a niche within a niche.


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#4540620 - 10/13/20 10:25 AM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
VR is still niche right now but once prices come down it will be a bit more widespread. I like to compare VR with the full blown HOTAS setup. PC flight simmers are a niche and then when you realize that not all flight simmers use a HOTAS then you realize it is a niche within a niche.


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#4540704 - 10/13/20 11:19 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: rwatson]  
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Well I asked the same question at the DCS World forum and it's definitely younger there

Marc..


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#4540711 - 10/14/20 12:05 AM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: Marc]  
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Originally Posted by Marc
Well I asked the same question at the DCS World forum and it's definitely younger there

Marc..


I ran the DCS numbers [twice]:

44 responders (out of 64 total posts...last poster: Dav IRL) totalling 1982...

1982 / 44 = 45.04 avg. age.

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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4540774 - 10/14/20 11:36 AM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: rwatson]  
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OK so 45 is younger compared to SimHQ but still a much higher age average compared to people who play mainstream games like first person shooters and MMO's.


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#4540778 - 10/14/20 12:03 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: rwatson]  
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#4540781 - 10/14/20 12:12 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
OK so 45 is younger compared to SimHQ but still a much higher age average compared to people who play mainstream games like first person shooters and MMO's.


Yeah PM, that's also what I was thinking.

Been a few months since covering mean, median and mode, but if anyone wants a look at the source #'s for DCS...


64
26
78
47
58
26
57
43
58
61
33
42
51
33
45
53
45
59
23
20
39
62
52
22
46
59
57
53
38
19
28
41
61
54
51
39
32
45
39
37
69
47
31
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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4540788 - 10/14/20 12:28 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: rwatson]  
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Just re-averaged the posted ages, from 45 responses, an even 56 years old.


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#4540833 - 10/14/20 03:15 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: rwatson]  
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Just to screw with the averages more...I mean add more valuable data, 37.

#4540839 - 10/14/20 03:57 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Just re-averaged the posted ages, from 45 responses, an even 56 years old.

Cool, I'm on the young side at 53. biggrin

#4540840 - 10/14/20 04:03 PM Re: Members ages ?? [Re: WangoTango]  
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Originally Posted by WangoTango
Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Just re-averaged the posted ages, from 45 responses, an even 56 years old.

Cool, I'm on the young side at 53. biggrin

That means you have NEVER seen the Leafs win a Stanley Cup. stirthepot neaner biggrin


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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
Originally Posted by WangoTango
Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Just re-averaged the posted ages, from 45 responses, an even 56 years old.

Cool, I'm on the young side at 53. biggrin

That means you have NEVER seen the Leafs win a Stanley Cup. stirthepot neaner biggrin

Nope, I was born 3 months later.
And I likely won't see it. Especially with the calculator cowboy as the GM.
They will probably win 3 months after I die.

Don't gloat, just because you witnessed the Ottawa Senators last Stanley Cup. winkngrin

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