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#4515878 - 04/11/20 09:29 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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I ask the Controller for a Vector to the nearest airfield. It turns out this is only twelve miles to my north, so that's where I go, throttling back and losing height steadily.

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It's not long before a grass airfield looms into view up ahead. I'm not sure which station it is, but that hardly matters.

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The airfield is on rising ground and I end up coming in rather low, looking around the windshield for a clearer view. I can make out patches of what looks like fresh earth from bomb craters on the landing ground, so I steer to the right, to avoid them.

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Bumps-a-daisy! My Hurricane touches down rather hard, bounces once...

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...then settles down more gently. During the roll-out, I can see that the station buildings badly need the services of a firm of glaziers, while the hangars could also use some attention from a roofing company.

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I'm tempted to turn away and park at a dispersal area on the perimeter track. But I'm a visitor here and my kite also needs some attention. So, throttled back, I raise my flaps, start tapping my brakes gently, and taxi over to the hangars, trailing a cloud of thin smoke.

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As it happened, that was the last action of the early afternoon. But Jerry wasn't finished with us yet. The day's most exciting encounter was yet to come!

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#4515996 - 04/12/20 03:03 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Late afternoon, 21 August 1940

Not having any squadrons close enough, I miss a golden opportunity for a Stuka party when a force of dive-bombers slips across the Pas de Calais and clobbers the RDF station near Dover. However, the next raid - Hostile 651, sixty plus - is heading for targets further inland so I manage to get 74 Squadron's Spitfires down in time, from the relatively-undamaged base at Martlesham Heath.

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By the time I've jumped into Green 1, flying ZP-K, our twelve Spits are diving towards the Huns, having obtained a slight height advantage for a change.

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The raid is straight ahead, about thirty bombers in three of the now-familiar double wedges, with a cloud of escorts above.

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The boss calls them in as I steer towards the fighters; my section is part of 'B' Flight and is generally the one tasked with holding off the escorts. As I watch, a bunch of them - 109s, I can now see - peels off towards us.

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I swing around early to avoid a head-on pass and latch onto one the Huns, who is in a very fast left-hander. I gradually tighten my own turn and he begins to drop back into my line of sight. I find I'm turning inside him without undue difficulty.

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I get hits with my first burst and the 109 levels his wings, shoves down his nose and drops like a stone. I'm reluctant to go down after him so early in the battle and soon lose sight of the 109 against the ground below. So maintaining my left-hand turn, I look for a fresh target.

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One of the boys is calling for help on the R/T and sure enough, up ahead is a Spitfire being chased by a Messerschmitt. Frustration and anger mix when the Spit goes down before I can get into range! The Hun breaks rigth, unaware that revenge is rapidly coming to get him.

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The 109 sees me coming, though, and breaks hard into a left-hand turn. Now I've got you! I turned inside your friend and now I'm going to turn inside you!

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To my utter disgust, the 109 drops into a convenient bank of clouds and disappears from view, before I can get off so much as a single round. I hang about briefly in the hope he'll re-appear, but there's nothing doing.

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Right, then, if it's not going to be you paying the price, it'll just have to be someone else!

...to be continued!

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#4516012 - 04/12/20 04:37 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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It proves harder than I was expecting to find a new victim. The raid seems also to have disappeared into the clouds; the dogfight likewise. Where is everybody? Darn and blast all these clouds! All I can see is some Ack Ack bursts, over to the right.

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Turning in that direction, I notice a ragged group of specks which look like fighters reforming. Messerschmitts, I'll wager!

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Before I can get close, they disappear into the clouds, heading south, but this time I hold my course and go in after them. Coming out into clear skies on the other side, I notice at once a large formation of what can only be Huns heading south, a couple of whom are trailing smoke.

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More Ack Ack fire draws my attention to the right. Barely visible well ahead of the bursts is a single, fast-moving speck. A 109 running for home, it can only be.

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But I'm more interested in the formation of four 109s, above and to my right front. Homeward bound, they look ripe for a sneak attack from behind and below. So that's what I decide to do.

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A quick check in the mirror reveals plenty of clouds but no Messerschmitts.

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Once in range I pull up directly behind the right-hand Hun for an easy no-deflection shot. My first burst whacks straight into him and he flips over to the right.

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I break right after him and watch from above. The 109 staggers, recovers, then flips into a wild spin, completely out of control.

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Now, that's more like it!

...to be continued!

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#4516053 - 04/12/20 08:38 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Twisting around to clear my tail, I can't see the other three 109s. What I can see is the retreating raid, up ahead and still streaming back towards France.

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I've still got plenty of juice in the tanks and at least some rounds for my eight machine guns, so after them I go. By this point, I can see that I'm crossing the Thames Estuary east of the Medway.

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I've assumed the aircraft I'm chasing are bombers, but they're not. These Huns are the escorts - the Messerschmitt 109s of I Gruppe, Jagdgeschwader 52...

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...lots of them...

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...shepherding the two of their number who are keeping up, but trailing smoke.

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Closing slowly from astern, the first hint I get is that these are fighters is that they're flying in groups of four aircraft, all very fighter-like. But of more immediate interest is a solitary straggler to the right, just outside the disc of my reflector sight.

Time to play 'Devil take the hindmost'.

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The hindmost in question is this 109.

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I catch him completely by surprise and my first, long burst sends him down in flames.

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Wisely, the pilot bails out.

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No doubt about him - that's one 'Destroyed', one 'Probably Destroyed', and one 'Damaged', all 109s. Quite the Messerschmitt killer today, I am.

But I'm not quite done yet.

...to be continued!

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#4516058 - 04/12/20 09:22 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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For my next trick, I roll in behind another 109 who's straggling behind the main bunch.

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This fellow isn't so easily shot down and racks his fighter into a tight turn to the left.

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When he realises I'm out-turning him, he goes vertical...

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...then levels out and turns hard right, leaving me wallowing down below.

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After a few more twists and turns he goes down, and I lose sight of him. I'm quite glad to see the back of him, really. The way he was able to throw his kite around was beginning to scare me; he was clearly an above average pilot, very liable to get the better of me, given half a chance.

Looking around, I can no longer see the formation of Messerschmitts. But there is another solitary 109 up ahead. I approach him warily, in case it's my recent opponent.

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I glance in the mirror as I close in, in case he's behind me instead. No - all clear back there.

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My intended victim sees me coming - or gets a warning - and tips over into a right-hand turn.

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What happened after that is all a bit hazy. I remember closing in and firing, and the Hun disappearing in a cloud of grey smoke. Next second, I was trapped in a Spitfire that was rolling rapidly and going down, unable to get out or even look around. A collision? An attack from an unseen foe? I'll never know!

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#4516166 - 04/13/20 02:30 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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33Lima, again, you got me on the edge of my seat.

#4516244 - 04/13/20 09:08 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Glad you enjoyed it - I certainly did! The fight against that fellow in White 4 was a real white knuckle ride, which is why the screenshots petered out after he got above me - I was too busy trying not to get shot down!

The next combat flown was the last one of the day - report on that coming up soon.

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#4538887 - 09/30/20 04:49 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Enjoying reading the AAR reports 33 Lima ,,Found my old BOB II cd's..Are there any active sites for patches,mods or general guidance setting it up..I did a base install and it looks kind of raggedy..I liked using the strategic map to organize intercepts..But I want to try getting it to look a bit cleaner Thanks for any advice


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#4538937 - 09/30/20 09:21 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: rwatson]  
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Originally Posted by rwatson
Enjoying reading the AAR reports 33 Lima ,,Found my old BOB II cd's..Are there any active sites for patches,mods or general guidance setting it up..I did a base install and it looks kind of raggedy..I liked using the strategic map to organize intercepts..But I want to try getting it to look a bit cleaner Thanks for any advice


The A2A BoB2 forums...

https://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=42

...are the go-to place for advice, info and new stuff which is released from time to time - like Boreas's A and B pattern mirror-image fixed camo schemes for Hurris and Spits, and alternative 6-patch and 8-patch gunport mods for the Spit. These and other mods are just linked to from the posts which announce them in the 'subscriber modifications' thread in the BoB2 General Discussion forum. Unfortunately there is not a downloads page where everything is nicely organised, but there is really only one must have mod (well, one for Win 7 and another one for Win 10, more of which below). The other mods are generally cosmetic and nice to have, according to taste.

The big issue is getting the sim to run in Win 10 and if it does run, it will CTD when you exit a mission. This means that in single missions, there is no debrief. in campaign missions, the results your squadron achieved will not count, although when you re-start the sim and reload the last save, the wargame/map game can be picked up where you started (before jumping into the mission in 3d and left to resolve that encounter), leaving you to fly another mission when you choose.

It may be possible to get the CD version, or early BDG updates, to run in Win 10, without the CTD on quitting problem.

However, the 'must have' update for BoB2 is the latest BDG 2.13 which includes a lot of good stuff and has multiskin built in (individual aircraft and squadron markings for all planes). BDG 2.13 definitely has the Win 10 'CTD on quitting' problem and all tries at solving this have so far had only temporary success, with the problem quickly returning.

I run in Win 7 which I set up for dual boot just to get around this and play BoB2 fully updated and without the CTD hassle. Not for everyone though as Win 7 apparently just won't work with newer mobos, without some serious techy stuff (but is fine with my i3 and GTX580).

If you have Win 7, the thing to do is download BDG 2.13 from here: https://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=51298 Installation is simple, double click the .exe and choose any options presented as you go.

It comes with a very comprehensive manual which includes installation and is an update to the very good hardcopy one that came with the big box release of BoB2.

With BDG 2.13 installed and running, the trick then is to set up the graphics (and other) settings to taste and get rid of the vanilla look. Basically I have everything maxed out except particle effects; 'Use desktop resolution' turned off; and the 2d and 3d resolutions set to my monitor's native (despite an exclamation mark showing against one of them in the drop-down).

I used the Nvidia driver to set AA and AF, but then added the settings here via Nvidia Inspector, which helps with distant terrain shimmer: https://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=68107

If you have Win 10 only, the best bet instead of BDG 2.13 seems to be this Win 10 mod/patch by Felizpe, which doesn't have the 2.13 features but has some neat ones of its own and should certainly produce a better game than vanilla: https://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=68917

Another must have in my view (with BDG2.13 anyway, not sure if needed with Felizpe's patch) is to edit External_View_Starting_Distance = 1.3 to get back the vanilla external view distance limit, so that the closest view distance is closer to the A/C (BDG 2.13 pushed the closest you could get way too far out, for me), as mentioned somewhere on this thread:

https://a2asimulations.com/forum/vi...&p=284900&hilit=distance#p284900

As the BDG 2.13 manual explains and as is discussed in that thread, the Notepad-editable bdg.txt file has many settings that you can't change via the options menu, like one to stop AI RAF fighters pursuing over France. Not sure if this file comes with Felizpe's patch.

Good hunting!

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#4538959 - 10/01/20 12:44 AM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Thanks Lima I'm running Win 7 with a Nvidia Geforce 1050 TI Got the original CD release with the manual and I think somewhere there is a map and key card with it.I think the last time I installed it the sim looked fair but the patch screwed it up..I should have worked on the graphics menu..I'll give it a go tomorrow..i really liked this sim when I first got it..good post it pointed me in the right direction..thanks


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Wish I never through my disk out. Love Cliffs of Dover but the AI and campaigns are hot garbage. Miss this sim!

#4539958 - 10/08/20 04:24 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Wish I never through my disk out. Love Cliffs of Dover but the AI and campaigns are hot garbage. Miss this sim!

#4539986 - 10/08/20 07:49 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Still available here, if you have Win 7 or if you have Win 10 and are ok with using Felizpe's patch and not having the latest BDG 2.13 update:

https://a2asimulations.com/product-category/standalone/


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#4549871 - 12/27/20 11:22 AM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Ah the sheer joy of BOB2. Thanks 33Lima, your campaign inspired me to drag my old Win7 laptop out of the basement and fire it up again for the firs time in years. Had to install a profile for my new joystick but was up and flying again in no time and just had a brilliant 1-1 dogfight with Adolf Galland in hero mode, just like old times! Got a lucky deflection shot on him, he went into a spin, I thought he was gone but he pulled out just above the ocean and then climbed up to re-engage, Ah that BOB2 Buddye AI, there has been nothing to match it since. Am now going to use some of my Christmas downtime on a campaign ... can't wait! Everything that IL2 BoX and CoD are not.

Is there an update after 2.13? I don¨t want to spend hours tinkering, just want to FLY!

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There has been no update since 2.13, but there have been quite a few subscriber mods uploaded recently over on the official BoBII site.

#4550380 - 01/01/21 04:44 AM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Surprised BoB2 2.13 was never fan-patched for Windows 10. I tried on several occasions to get it running under Win10 but it always cockblocks my attempt to do so.

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Originally Posted by MadMike
Surprised BoB2 2.13 was never fan-patched for Windows 10. I tried on several occasions to get it running under Win10 but it always cockblocks my attempt to do so.


You know you can get version 2.06 (the last official version) for Win 10 right? Just go to a2a BOB2 website. Chap called Felizpe did wonders getting it to run. Works with multiskin, but doesnt include all the improvements to the campaign and AI that Two27 and Buddye did from 2.06 onwards.

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Well, after a long gap I'm playing BoB2 again and though badly out of practice - not that I was doing any better, with it - I decided I might as well finish my RAF campaign. This had got as far as 22 August and was on the brink of defeat, with 11 Group pretty well destroyed and the remnants of 10 and 12 Groups being remorselessly ground down.

First action of the day involved dropping into Green 1's Hurricane for a patrol with 17 Squadron. I scrambled the squadron's six available aircraft in response to several strong raids. I also initiated a move from West Malling to one of 11 Group's few serviceable bases.

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We tootled around for a while...

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...but failed to make contact with the enemy. This, despite the Ops Room map being filled with Huns that must have ended up just out of reach.

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Likewise I don't think any of the other small patrols I brought down from 12 Group to the north, or across from 10 Group to the west, made contact. So the only action that morning was yet more bombing of our remaining fighter airfields.

I'm struggling to re-learn the Ops Room interface and several times got stumped by error me3ssages telling me there weren't enough aircraft to make interceptions, so I was reduced to scrambling patrols, invariably of only six aircraft, then revectoring them to intercept detected raids. This way I was able to get 43 Squadron to intercept a large raid north of the Thames Estuary...

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...though it did really feel like a suicidal effort. Just six of us against this bunch!

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The only result was a mid-air-collision with the Dornier I attacked. I'd set him smoking but waited too long before breaking away.

No. 56 Squadron also made contact, probably with the same raid. I dropped into US-A, leading Green Section. I don't think the RAF skins in BoB2 have ever been bettered - they certainly represent the aircraft as I think they should look.

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I called in the Bandits to the flight leader...

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...who acknowledged and then gave orders to attack the bombers. Which formation of bombers he meant wasn't immediately clear.

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I went for the nearest lot...

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...and clobbered a Dornier on the left rear of a formation of nine.

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Time to clear my tail, with so many Huns about, including fighters.

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III/JG26 had plenty of 109s in the air nearby...

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...but for some reason they didn't bother me. Likely, they had already detached a staffel to deal with the rest of the squadron and were going to leave them to it rather than get sucked in.

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Right - time to have another go!

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...to be continued!

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#4580570 - 09/19/21 09:36 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Got one!

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That will give his mates something to think about!

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Sensibly, the blazing Dornier's crew are wasting no time in getting out.

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No doubt about that one! And I managed to avoid colliding with him!

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My tail's clear and although I now have no idea where the rest of the boys are, I decide to have one last go with what's left of my ammo, which can't be much.

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Picking a Dornier on the other side of the formation, I manage to set him smoking before the guns run dry.

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Looks like he's going down, too. A hat trick for Green Leader!

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Banking tightly to watch him go while clearing my tail, I realise I'm over a large airfield, some of whose hangars and buildings are piles of rubble. Debden, perhaps. Wherever it is, it's likely the bombers' target and in for another pounding.

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Which it duly gets.

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Not Good! But at least the airfield was spared the bombs of the three Dorniers I hacked down.

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Home, and tea! For once, I deserve it!

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...to be continued!

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#4580625 - 09/20/21 02:08 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Belfast, NI
Back in the Ops Room, I notice that one of the afternoon's raids isn't returning to France, but has in fact veered to the west. It's headed for Middle Wallop fighter base in 10 Group, splitting into two distinct formations each of about 30-plus as it comes. I order up patrols from any nearby operational base that has enough fighters left, then once airborne, re-vector the patrols to intercept the raid.

As it happens, the Huns are two formations of Heinkels from KG27.

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Amongst the patrols racing towards them are six Hurricanes from 238 Squadron...

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...and another six from No. 1 Squadron, which I've opted to lead. For both squadrons, you can see the mix of mirror image A and B Scheme camouflage patterns introduced by Boreas's clever mod.

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We climb desperately towards the phalanx of enemy aircraft, which we can see includes many covering 109s from I/JG3...

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...some of which are already coming for us.

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I order the boys to attack...

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...and lead them towards the bombers, in the hope we can get amongst the Heinkels before the 109s get amongst us.

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There seems little hope of avoiding the higher and more numerous Messerschmitts. But we have to do what we can to prevent Middle Wallop from joining the many fighter bases which have already been put out of action.

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...to be continued!


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