#4538417 - 09/25/20 08:17 PM
Re: New business model for ED proposed.
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I think their present model works fine. Anyone who has been around the flight sim scene for long should know that early release's are prone to be buggy, if you can't handle prospect that don't buy early release modules until the bugs are smashed. With public forums such as this it's not really difficult to learn what others think of these things before buying them yourself.
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#4538468 - 09/26/20 11:09 AM
Re: New business model for ED proposed.
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I think their present model works fine. Anyone who has been around the flight sim scene for long should know that early release's are prone to be buggy, if you can't handle prospect that don't buy early release modules until the bugs are smashed. With public forums such as this it's not really difficult to learn what others think of these things before buying them yourself. The difference being that every single one of ED's releases are buggy, they never leave 'beta' regardless of what milestones they like to claim.
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#4538469 - 09/26/20 11:34 AM
Re: New business model for ED proposed.
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I think their present model works fine. Anyone who has been around the flight sim scene for long should know that early release's are prone to be buggy, if you can't handle prospect that don't buy early release modules until the bugs are smashed. With public forums such as this it's not really difficult to learn what others think of these things before buying them yourself. The difference being that every single one of ED's releases are buggy, they never leave 'beta' regardless of what milestones they like to claim. I would not call lack of absolute perfection "buggy". I've not ran into any of this so called "buggy" behavior that prevents me from enjoying the F-18 immensely. Same for A-10C, or anything else.
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#4538858 - 09/30/20 02:33 PM
Re: New business model for ED proposed.
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To me the issue isnt only bugs, lack of transparency is a significant issue when considering the purchase an “Early Access” release, below is a copy of the press release features regarding the F-16 Viper. ****************************************************************************************************************************************************
Key Features of DCS: F-16C Viper
Professional Flight Model (PFM) and authentic fly-by-wire Flight Control System (FCS). The most realistic model of the F-16C imaginable, down to each bolt and flake of paint, animated controls surfaces, lights, damage model, and landing gear. Detailed simulation of the Viper’s many sub-systems like engines, fuel, electrical, hydraulic, radios, lighting, emergency, and many, many more. Although features like "auto start" are available, the sense of accomplishment cannot be overstated after learning to operate this state-of-the-art machine. Dozens of air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons and sensors. From simple rockets to high-tech GPS and laser-guided bombs, experience what only F-16C pilots have experienced ‘til now. A highly realistic and exhaustively researched cockpit that is mouse interactive with 6-degrees of freedom. Interact with the cockpit by pressing buttons and moving switches. You will feel like part of the aircraft with our Advanced Systems Modeling (ASM). Authentic F-16C sounds. Virtual Reality support. Take advantage of the latest VR technologies to immerse yourself in the simulation. Other than the G's, you will feel like you are there! Multiple liveries for the United States Air Force and Air National Guard, Air Force, Turkey, Greece, Israel, and others.
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Suppose you heard that DCS has these great military aircraft simulations with many systems modeled and great flight models, so what is your expectation
Lets go thru the features
Good flight model........ Great Eye candy appearance .... nice Basic aircraft subsystems...... yawn it is a sim isnt it! Dozens of sensors...... Great are they functional? How many are complete out if a total of how many......Ive never flown one so how would I know what I’m buying? or the state of completeness. 3d cockpit... wow again this isnt MS FS 1998 Great realistic sounds! ....some sound is expected, tweaking the quality while nice can be easily achieved later. Virtual Reality great, does that mean its functional? Many liveries! Yeah! When flying I cant see the exterior, and like the sound can easily be tweaked later.
So in terms of a combat flight sim , the prospective EA Purchaser has no real idea of what military capability this plane has. OK its a flight sim that has the appearance, sounds and flight model of the real plane.....with a 3d cockpit that has buttons but they might not do anything.
Yes Im aware this is EA, but the description is not clear if it can do anything, other than fly and maybe carry many types of non-functional weaponry.
This is not criticism of the product but rather how it is promoted and marketed.
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#4539531 - 10/05/20 12:47 PM
Re: New business model for ED proposed.
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DCS F-16 likely will never be able to touch what we have in Falcon BMS, especially when you factor in the dynamic campaign. That is fully expected to be the case since Falcon 4/BMS is a study sim of the F-16 while DCS has multiple modules covering modern jets and helos, WWII aircraft and also vehicles.
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