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#4538009 - 09/22/20 01:31 PM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: F4UDash4]  
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#4538017 - 09/22/20 02:05 PM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Han Solo? Is he a hero or antihero?

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#4538024 - 09/22/20 04:29 PM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Han Solo started out as an anti-hero (particularly if you have the original version, where he shot first), but even by the end of "A New Hope" he was starting to turn into a good guy.


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#4538027 - 09/22/20 05:21 PM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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William Foster from Falling Down.
William Munny, Eastwood's character from Unforgiven. Depending on how you define antihero, Gene Hackman's character from the same film could be one. He was just the sheriff trying to keep some semblance of law and order in a chaotic world.

And one from the wayback machine: Lamont Cranston, aka The Shadow of radio, comic and movie fame.


My favorites would be the already mentioned Han Solo and Max Rockatansky.

#4538028 - 09/22/20 05:25 PM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Agreed that Solo was most definitely the classic "anti-hero" for most of the duration of "A New Hope". George Lucas needed to have him be that way as a contrast to Luke Skywalker and it worked great on film.

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#4538040 - 09/22/20 08:03 PM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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#4538076 - 09/23/20 02:10 AM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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+1 on William Foster from Falling Down.
James Bond in some but not all of the 007 movies.
William Muny in Unforgiven
Ethan Edwards in The Searchers

#4538108 - 09/23/20 11:41 AM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: Tarnsman]  
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Originally Posted by Tarnsman

James Bond in some but not all of the 007 movies.




IMHO I'd say the anti-hero descriptor would apply in the Daniel Craig and Timothy Dalton movies. Bond in those films was portrayed as a brooding secret agent who had no qualms about using brutality when it came to accomplishing the mission.

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#4538109 - 09/23/20 11:50 AM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Dr. Strangelove would also be a good candidate for the title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf9iTZ433zs

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#4538311 - 09/25/20 01:56 AM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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One of my all-time favorites is Baltar from the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica series.


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#4538322 - 09/25/20 03:35 AM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: ArgonV]  
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Originally Posted by ArgonV
One of my all-time favorites is Baltar from the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica series.


Eh, was he not just more of a villain (at least of most of the show)?

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Gaius Baltar was a fantastically written and acted character on the reimagined BSG but I would not classify him as an "anti-hero". I'd say he's really a sympathetic villain in the same vein as "Two Face" from the Batman universe.

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Gaius wasn't an anti-hero. Snake Plissken, however, is a model anti-hero.


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The important thing about anti-heroes is they don't frankly give a crap what happens to other folks in a story, and are in it for themselves. That their actions saved a few folks matters not to them, nor was their intention--they are happy that they got the gold, or whatever it was they were searching for.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
The important thing about anti-heroes is they don't frankly give a crap what happens to other folks in a story, and are in it for themselves. That their actions saved a few folks matters not to them, nor was their intention--they are happy that they got the gold, or whatever it was they were searching for.


Baltar to a tee.

Doomed the human race in the show, and also saved it. All he cared about was his own skin. Oh and Caprica-6.


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#4538434 - 09/25/20 11:14 PM Re: The most compelling anti-heroes? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I'm not sure Baltar had enough of an influential hand to save humanity, compared with the rest of the crew. He was a true piece of crap for half the series.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
I'm not sure Baltar had enough of an influential hand to save humanity, compared with the rest of the crew. He was a true piece of crap for half the series.



He went from chief science advisor to the president, to vice president, to president of the colonies.... not many people had greater influence than he.


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