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#4529922 - 07/14/20 11:46 AM Rudder and Joystick Problems  
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Hey guys!

I am using WOFF PE on my new machine; everything runs perfect on high Details.

Huge Problem: the rudders and my Joystick do not work properly.

the rudder constantly banks, although I am not giving the command.
So does my Joystick: it moves in all directions, although I am not doing that.

I love the sim, but that is really terrible.
Went through other Forums as well, but Nothing could help me so far frown

so here is my Equipment:

Saitek X52 Professional
Logitech Flight Rudder Pedals


AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 8-Core
3,7 GHz
16 GB
64 Bit
Windows 10 Pro
NVidia Geforce RTX 2070 Super

thanks for your help!!! Hope to get this solved…

Cheers


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#4529933 - 07/14/20 01:16 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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Sloth Try this:

Work on joystick first when you set up your controllers.

Unbind breaks/unbind rudder on joystick

Unbind all unused items on rudder

Then set up joystick first before anything else.

Viel Gluck Jerbear

#4529943 - 07/14/20 02:37 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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Check and make sure you clear out the bindings on your joystick rudder twist as well as what jerbear said. I was having an effect similar to this and that fixed it as I was unconsciously twisting the stick which would careen me all over the place.

#4530076 - 07/15/20 03:16 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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It may be because you have your joystick plugged into a USB3, a quick search on google has revealed plenty of problems for X-52 Pro users with USB3. Have you tried it on any other flight sims to check if this problem only occurs in WOFF?


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#4530111 - 07/15/20 04:34 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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Thanks for your help!

1. I have done what Rawlings and jerbear said; no success so far frown

@Rugbyfan1972: I will give it a try.


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#4530114 - 07/15/20 04:49 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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@Rugbyfan1972

Changing from USB3 to USB2 had no effect on my Problem.. Unfortunately I do not have any other sim to test…


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#4530119 - 07/15/20 05:07 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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I had to change joysticks. I can't remember exactly when my X52s (have two of them) quit working, whether it was after a rebuild or updating the computer, but neither one will work now on any game. My Saitek rudder pedals still work though (go figure), and I changed to a TM1600 stick and throttle set up, which work fine.


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#4530122 - 07/15/20 05:32 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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@ Burning_Beard

Thank you! Just came back frome the store with a new Joystick; no effect.

Any further suggestions guys? smile


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#4530133 - 07/15/20 06:20 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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This may be a stupid suggestion and also the most simple, but have you tried to calibrate the joystick in Windows? Not in game, but through the hardware manager utility?


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#4530136 - 07/15/20 06:36 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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Have you checked to see if your USB ports are working correctly?


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#4530137 - 07/15/20 06:40 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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On my machine, the X52s did not show up at all in the select controller window, it was like they didn't exist.


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#4530976 - 07/22/20 04:30 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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Thanks for all your help so far!

The joystick (a new old one) now works fine.
The rudder pedals still do not work properly. When I move the joystick (!), the rudder pedals are moving, too.
In the windows-calibration they seem to be allright and I have the latest Logitech -Software for Win 10.

Further help guys?
Thanks so much!


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#4531205 - 07/24/20 04:19 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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Sounds like you still have a clash of axis. Remove any unused axis from each controller in the WOFF keys setup., and in any other software such as Logitech .



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Wings Over Flanders Fields and Wings Over The Reich
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#4536850 - 09/13/20 04:41 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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I have the same problem with a Logitech G940, Separate rudder throttle & joystick.
I gave up trying to get it working, I'm now using an old Top gun afterburner 2, it's a bit crap but it works.
But right now I have bigger problems, With slow FPS.
I'm lucky to get 40 fps with almost all enhancements turned off. DX9 is off, Default shaders are set at 4 aircraft, 4 terrain, 3 scenery, 3 effects and 2 clouds.
Sun glare is off, head shake is off, No in cloud fog and Woods at medium.
Using a LG tv, 1360x768 res'.
I have a B450 tomahawk max m/board with AMD Ryzen 5 3600x 6-core processor, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, VRAM 8176 MB gddr6.
16 GB 1750 MH [vengeance LPX] ddr4 RAM.
Windows 10 64 bit.
2TB hd, and 460 GB SSD.
I must have something set wrong, as I think this setup should easily cope with this Sim [I think].

Last edited by jnhoward; 09/19/20 11:21 AM.
#4536927 - 09/14/20 08:45 AM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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You need to go through the FAQ, you need to UNBIND all axis on any controller that won't be used by it in WOFFKeys program. Save as you go. Access via workshop Re Map Keys/Controllers button.
i.e. take rudder off your stick, and then do the same forr the pedals. Unbind all others unused etc.

DX9 off option is really just for testing, something sounds screwed there somewhere. Also best to leave aircraft on "5". Make sure you install DirectX9 fully exactly as the step by step in the FAQ section 4
The FAQ is on our website, support page.




Last edited by Polovski; 09/14/20 09:06 AM.

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Wings Over Flanders Fields and Wings Over The Reich
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http://www.wingsoverthereich.com
#4538153 - 09/23/20 06:10 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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I have followed the instructions, but nothing has changed. I completely unbound EVERYTHING including all the buttons. I took my time rebinding everything, starting with the joystick, But it still nose dives to the left when I throttle down and pulls up to the right when I throttle up. Twice I went through all that faffing about, with no different outcome, so that was another couple of hours wasted. I'll be dead and gone before my joystick works with this game. So had to go back to my old Top Gun Afterburner 2 Again. I don't get this problem with my other Flight Sims, [ all the IL2 great battles and Rise of Flight and Elite Dangerous work fine ]. So for anyone interested, if you have a Logitech G940, and you actually intend to fly planes, then try another joystick because life is too short !.
I did get the frame rate up, Direct X 9 was not installed.

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#4538251 - 09/24/20 02:59 PM Re: Rudder and Joystick Problems [Re: FlyingSloth88]  
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Glad you sorted the fps at least. I know others here have used a G940 before so perhaps someone will chip in - something definitely seems bound to two axis somehow. Maybe other programs are interfering, vjoy, or other controllers (wheels?) etc.


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Polovski,
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Wings Over Flanders Fields and Wings Over The Reich
http://www.overflandersfields.com
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