I shut off the forced 30 FPS synchronization mentioned above and got 45 FPS nominal frame rate at 4K native resolution using the Assassin's Creed Odyssey in game graphics test software (RX5700XT).
I tried RIS on Assasin's Creed Odyssey (mentioned above) with in game resolution setting at 1080p. I got 60FPS at 4K on screen.
But then, I wondered, does that make sense? The old RIS article linked above says RIS does NOT work on DX11.
I looked it up on the AMD site. That's changed. RIS now works on DX11 and RIS is supported by most recent AMD GPUs (RIS on RX470 and up -- see attachment). So, I really was getting a true "effective" 4K as advertised (not quite "native" 4K) on screen at 60FPS using RIS. Looked like native 4K to my eyes. Others may have better eyes
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You clearly miss the point in your rush to blindly defend AMD.
It's quite obvious what you're trying to point out is that whilst Nvidia can upscale to 8K with limitations (games need to be coded for it), AMD has equivalence with RIS with even less limitations (DX version/vulcan)......however and very bizarrely you choose the RTX 3090 as the card to compare against, probably because you think it offers more weight to your argument or because it's the most powerful GPU about to land on gamers.
Like I said earlier, the quote that you linked to is also trying to make out that 8K/60fps just really isn't happening at all, the first sentence is 'You didn't really expect native 8K at 60 fps, right?....and you've even underlined it in your post to emphasise it. However, like I said, 8 out of the 11 games are hitting 8K/60fps natively and 7 out of the 11 games in the graph don't even benefit from DLSS in the first place. I assume you don't really know much about the games you then emphasised in your reply about 'lighter fare' games being the only ones getting 8K/60fps natively. They may not be the heaviest hitting games, but the likes of Destiny 2, R6 Seige, Forza 4 and World of Tanks still need heavy artillery to get close to 60fps in 4K and reduce systems without the latest CPUs and GPUs to their knees.
The bit that you are still missing is that whilst using the 3090 as your comparitive card, you're using a monster card that doesn't need DLSS to hit 60fps at an 8K resolution in the first place, regardless that you try to emphasise in your post that it can't run games at that resolution/fps natively in the first place. Lets be honest here, any game from the last 5 years getting anywhere close to 60fps at a native 8K is nigh on a miracle, a huge jump from existing generations (the 2080ti is still struggles to hit 60fps at 4K in some games and that's streets ahead of anything else available today). It's pretty much pointless highlighting this sort of info anyway as you're more interested in trying to show how AMD is the best thing since sliced bread when in GPU terms they've disappointed year after year. Now on the CPU side it's a completely different story and they're the only CPUs that anyone should be recommending right now.
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All by way of saying the very first RTX 3090 and 3080 won't be the fastest (as is usual with new hardware). And, at some point, there will probably be Ti (or equal) versions according to some pundits.
Right now, there are so many "custom" RTX 3000 versions being leaked/hinted/teased that the "rumor/leak" of low initial RTX3000 supply (noted in an above post) may be in error. Or, Nvidia may actually have prematurely released to "get the jump" on AMD Big Navi. We'll see -- maybe in October. As already mentioned, I would be surprised if "Big Navi" FPS competes with RTX3090 FPS.
The Non Disclosure Agreements for the first cards expire September 14. Then, we'll get the (usually) dozens of third party reviews -- followed by RTX3080 sales beginning September 17.
AMD provides the CPU/GPU parts of XBox and Sony Playstation.
[Updated – Now Official] Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X Price Revealed Alongside November Release Date; Series S Design Leaks
Both consoles will be arriving on November 10, with Microsoft’s top entry, the Xbox Series X, selling for $499 at retail. The Xbox Series S, previously known as Project Lockhart, will be sold at a very attractive price point - $299.
it's now up to Sony to reveal the price and release date of its PlayStation 5.
AMD to introduce Zen3 on October 8, Radeon RX 6000 series on October 28
AMD today announced it will host two separate events in October. The first event will cover Zen3 architecture and most likely Ryzen 4000 series processors codenamed Vermeer. This event is scheduled for October 8th.
On October 28th, AMD will showcase its Radeon RX 6000 graphics cards (the name has been confirmed in a tweet). These graphics cards are based on RDNA2 architecture.
As promised, the RDNA2 GPUs will therefore be announced before gaming consoles, based on the same architecture. The announcement takes place in late October, so we expect the availability of the new graphics cards somewhere in November.
NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX 3090 Graphics Card Is An Absolute Unit – Triple-Slot Monster Pictured Inside Standard ATX Case
The GeForce RTX 3090 graphics card isn't just the biggest Founders Edition graphics card in the RTX 30 series lineup but its also the largest for NVIDIA's entire FE generation of cards with the only exception being the triple-slot Titan Z but that card featured two chips while the RTX 3090 features just one GPU.
..the GeForce RTX 3090 seems to be a force of its own..
Nvidia turned over all the stones to make the 3090 the most powerful GPU. For example, its virtually the largest GPU that can fit in a normal PC case, its heavy, and it uses 350W requiring very special cooling.
That's competition between Nvidia and AMD in action. Competition is good
From the press conference, it was immediately clear that the 3090 isn't a consumer card, so it makes sense that the price, size and power requirements are similar to Titan. However, the pricing is much lower than Titans from the past. Why, when you can ask almost double the price?
At one notable retailer -- but thought to be indicative of the general situation:
AMD Ryzen Continues To Decimate Intel Core CPUs In The DIY Segment – High-End $300 US+ Ryzen CPU Sales Exceed Intel’s Entire Line
The latest figures come from Mindfactory who is a well-known name in our community as one of the largest German retailers of PC hardware.
AMD's Ryzen CPUs which include their 2nd Gen and 3rd Gen parts accounted for 84% of the sales at the retailer or about 20,000 CPU units whereas Intel's 9th & 10th Gen parts only accounted for 16% sales with less than 5,000 CPU units. Based on the numbers, the AMD Ryzen 5 3600 was the most popular CPU followed by Ryzen 7 3700X.
Nvidia has slightly delayed Nvidia GPU reviews scheduled for Monday.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 reviews: September 16th, RTX 3070: October 15th
NVIDIA has apparently changed the embargo date for GeForce RTX 3080 reviews. We were supposed to see the reviews of Founders Edition models on Monday. Custom board reviews and full unveil (including board designs etc.) were scheduled for September 17th.
Today NVIDIA announced that RTX 3080 reviews will in fact come later two days later and just one day before the official launch and retail availability, on September 16th.
Additionally, NVIDIA has confirmed that GeForce RTX 3070 will be available on October 15th.
Watched it. It will be interesting to see the concluding video. I assume they will determine that Intel 14nm is not literally 14nm and AMD 7nm is not literally 7nm.
It has been my understanding that the nm number as applied to CPUs and GPUs is not an exact measurement of the literal "size" of things. Its more a marketing tool to help describe in simple language the relative capabilities of two circuits. It involves size and other factors boiled down to a number the customer can understand. In that sense, the actual size of two circuits could be nearly the same, but they will have different nm ratings -- or other combinations.
Moreover, CPUs and GPUs do not necessarily have a constant nm measurement all over the die. The size depends on what part of the die one is measuring.
It will be fun to see their measurements and hear their interpretations in the next video. I'm sure I will learn something. Please link it when it comes out
Intel will be in the GPU business in a big way next year (they say). Now, Nvidia is making a play to be a force in the CPU business. So, in a few years we may have 3 large companies competing in both GPU and CPU (AMD, Intel, Nvidia). Competition is good
It’s Official: NVIDIA To Acquire Arm For $40 Billion
NVIDIA this evening announced that it is buying Arm Limited for $40 billion. The cash and stock deal will see NVIDIA buy the semiconductor and IP design firm from SoftBank and its associated SoftBank Vision Fund, with NVIDIA taking an eye towards expanding Arm’s IP licensing business while also using Arm’s technology to further pierce into the datacenter market. The deal is just being formally announced today and will likely not close for some time, as it is expected to be required to clear multiple regulatory hurdles in the UK, US, China, and other governments across the globe.
Jensen Huang Says Nvidia-Branded ARM CPUs Are a Possibility
Buying Arm is just the beginning.
According to comments from Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang during a conference call yesterday, we could see Nvidia-branded CPUs in the future, setting the stage for a new level of competition with Intel and AMD.
The graphics card features a dual-slot design with three axial fans. The card is also confirmed to feature up to two 8-pin power connectors. This is most likely the Radeon RX 6900XT (or whatever the flagship model is called). The card also features a new Radeon logo.
The image supports the guess that Big Navi will have high power usage (like RTX3080).
RDNA2 architecture will support AV1 decoding on the desktop Radeon series (RX and Pro). Both Navi 21 (Sienna Cichlid) and Navi 22 (Navy Flounder) will feature Video Core Next 3.0 implementation.
The AV1 decoding support is becoming a standard.
Microsoft is adding AV1 Video Extension which should boost AV1 performance in Windows 10 at a higher resolution. Google also updated its Chrome web browser on Windows 10 to support AV1 hardware decoding.
The AV1 is a new, open, royalty-free video encoding format with up to 50% more bitrate efficiency over H264,
Nvidia RTX3080 reviews were legally released 5 minutes ago. Here's the first one I saw:
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition Review: A Huge Generational Leap in Performance
By Jarred Walton 5 minutes ago
Nvidia's GeForce RTX 3080 Founders Edition is here, claiming the top spot on our GPU benchmarks hierarchy, and ranking as the best graphics card currently available — provided you're after performance first, with price and power being lesser concerns.
The bottom line, if you don't mind spoilers, is that the RTX 3080 FE is 33% faster than the RTX 2080 Ti, on average. Or, if you prefer other points of comparison, it's 57% faster than the RTX 2080 Super, 69% faster than the RTX 2080 FE — heck, it's even 26% faster than the Titan RTX!
But there's a catch: We measured all of those 'percent faster' results across our test suite running at 4K ultra settings. The lead narrows if you drop down to 1440p, and it decreases even more at 1080p. It's still 42% faster than a 2080 FE at 1080p ultra, but this is very much a card made for higher resolutions.
They note the probably early "sell out" of the first available cards.
I'll link to the site having links to all the reviews later -- when I see it.