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#4532091 - 07/31/20 12:08 PM Re: Gosh! This sure look different than when I played it. [Re: PanzerMeyer]  

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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
I have ZERO interest in civilian flight sims but to each their own of course. It's like those people who play the John Deere farming games or a public transit bus driving sim. Whatever floats your boat dude. smile


I've always liked sims but i also played tons of different games, cRPG's, FPS, some action games. But lately it changed drastically. I stopped playing any sort of story driven, single player games. Everything bores me within just couple od hours of playtime. Quite recently i tried Prey, Assassins Creed Origins, Odyssey, Divinity Original Sin, Pillars of Eternity, Kingdom Come Deliverance... i could not last more that 3-4 hours although i know these are all at least good, and some, really good games.

Currently the most fun i have is American Truck Simulator:) Besides that I still really like to play strategy games, that fortunately did not change. I guess i'am getting old, i've been playing games for about 30 years now...

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Originally Posted by USSCheyenne
i've been playing games for about 30 years now...



Burn-out is a very real thing with any hobby that is done for a long time. I myself have frequently alternated between different game genres depending on my mood over the 30+ years that I've been PC gaming. There's also the case of "been there, done that". There are only so many ways games can reinvent the wheel in order to create a new experience.


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#4532096 - 07/31/20 12:22 PM Re: Gosh! This sure look different than when I played it. [Re: Alicatt]  
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Originally Posted by Alicatt
Glorious Green Screen on my mate's Apple II was my introduction to the delights of Sublogic's Flight Simulator before Microsoft bought it.

This is how I remember it, and then later on the Commodore 64 with colour too! Not my pic I hasten to add, just a random image off the interwebs.


That's what it look like when I played it on my friend's Apple.

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What's it like to jump out of an airplane with a parachute? I like to try that like you see the Navy SEALS do from really high up.

The people that didn't make it, all were guys that were thinking about it too hard, and even after the sergeant threw them out of the plane they were panicking.


So I freeze at the door, the will give me a push in my back to shove me out?

Does the chute opens on its own or do I need to pull it? In the world war 2 movies you see them hook up. But in the parachute videos you see online now you don't see a rope remaining behind sticking out the door of the airplane so I assume you either needs to pull it as you are falling or it opens on its own.


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#4532106 - 07/31/20 01:37 PM Re: Gosh! This sure look different than when I played it. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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So I freeze at the door, the will give me a push in my back to shove me out?


It will depend on how you're trained. I did a short parachuting course in the air force, and in that I realised the power of training by drilling.

We did the same drill over & over on the ground for days until we didn't know how to get it wrong. When we were in the aircraft, every single guy jumped because really, we simply did not know what else to do so we did the only thing we did know how to do smile


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#4532111 - 07/31/20 01:54 PM Re: Gosh! This sure look different than when I played it. [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
I have ZERO interest in civilian flight sims but to each their own of course. It's like those people who play the John Deere farming games or a public transit bus driving sim. Whatever floats your boat dude. smile

I always thought the idea of simulating the real world was kind of cool, so I enjoyed the civ simulators from that aspect, like eventually being able to fly around my own city, fly under bridges I've driven over, things like that. But mostly, I felt it helped when I was taking flying lessons. Not so much from a control perspective, but from a procedure standpoint - how to line up for an approach, what your airspeed should be, building up the habits of checking the instruments while looking around, etc.


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#4532116 - 07/31/20 02:16 PM Re: Gosh! This sure look different than when I played it. [Re: DM]  
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So I freeze at the door, the will give me a push in my back to shove me out?


It will depend on how you're trained. I did a short parachuting course in the air force, and in that I realised the power of training by drilling.

We did the same drill over & over on the ground for days until we didn't know how to get it wrong. When we were in the aircraft, every single guy jumped because really, we simply did not know what else to do so we did the only thing we did know how to do smile

As an Air Cadet (Air Training Corps) before we were let into a DH. Chipmunk we had to go through parachute training and also ditching at sea, never got to jump out of an aircraft tho, so a little disappointed about that smile

Where we flew from the first few minutes of flight were over the Firth of Forth and then out to sea for some aerobatics smile


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#4532126 - 07/31/20 03:36 PM Re: Gosh! This sure look different than when I played it. [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
I have ZERO interest in civilian flight sims but to each their own of course. It's like those people who play the John Deere farming games or a public transit bus driving sim. Whatever floats your boat dude. smile


For some of us, civilian flight isn't about going from point A to point B, but for pushing the limits as hard as possible in the air and over the terrain and man-made obstacles.

Sometimes I'll fire up Cliffs of Dover, a combat sim, not to shoot stuff, but to fly the aerobatic plane around the countryside and do insane things. I do the same in Falcon BMS--give myself my own private airshow.

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Originally Posted by Alicatt
Glorious Green Screen on my mate's Apple II was my introduction to the delights of Sublogic's Flight Simulator before Microsoft bought it.

This is how I remember it, and then later on the Commodore 64 with colour too! Not my pic I hasten to add, just a random image off the interwebs.



I too recall this on a friend's computer back in the early 80's. The sim was a total slideshow, though.

#4532139 - 07/31/20 04:18 PM Re: Gosh! This sure look different than when I played it. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I heard of the saying You are crazy to want to jump out of a perfectly good airplane. That makes sense too.


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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
I heard of the saying You are crazy to want to jump out of a perfectly good airplane. That makes sense too.

The counter to that is that there is no such thing as a perfectly good airplane smile


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#4532162 - 07/31/20 05:34 PM Re: Gosh! This sure look different than when I played it. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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#4532164 - 07/31/20 05:42 PM Re: Gosh! This sure look different than when I played it. [Re: Arthonon]  
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I heard of the saying You are crazy to want to jump out of a perfectly good airplane. That makes sense too.

The counter to that is that there is no such thing as a perfectly good airplane smile


If it's still flying with all engines working, it's perfectly good, isn't it?


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I think it was all blue on my Mac 512...imagine that, a whole 512 K of system memory!

That's more than the 128K I started with on Macs, or of course the 48K I started with on my Atari 800 smile

The Mac version was black and white. The Atari ST version was basically the Mac version, but with color.


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#4534299 - 08/21/20 12:49 PM Re: Gosh! This sure look different than when I played it. [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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A lot of people from SimHQ grabbed it already. A few of us have been flying together with it on discord. It has it's pros and cons really. I like how easy the MP is to group up and fly but it's a bit too easy to fly as the planes cant collide and if someone goes to the pause menu their plane stops mid air and fades out until they come back and then it resumes flight from where they stopped. So if you are in formation and someone hits escape to check a key binding they drop out of formation and appear behind you and have to catch up. it has a bunch of idiosyncrasies like that.

But it looks wonderful even on lower settings and scales well. The weather is amazing! If you always wanted realistic weather and clouds in a flight sim.... this is the first one i've played that feels real. I use to pay about 200 bucks in addons to get inferior weather effects for msfsx.

There is a lot of potential with this sim. Especially with the high end pay planes that will be ported over from fsx.


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What? They want you to pay more to get the better planes after you already paid for the game? I hate it when they do that. That is why I don't have a single game on my phone. None of the phone games that says free are free because you have to pay and pay and pay to make progress on those games and to unlock levels and assets. I want games that I pay once and I can play forever without needing to be connected to the net to play and without needing to pay more to progress.


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Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
What? They want you to pay more to get the better planes after you already paid for the game? I hate it when they do that. That is why I don't have a single game on my phone. None of the phone games that says free are free because you have to pay and pay and pay to make progress on those games and to unlock levels and assets. I want games that I pay once and I can play forever without needing to be connected to the net to play and without needing to pay more to progress.


That ship has long sailed.

But in this case, it's 3rd party planes that are build to a better quality. The planes in FS20 are good with some clickable cockpits etc but none of them simulate the actual onboard plane systems fully. Some of the 3rd party planes for fsx are of such good quality that they are almost identical in function to the real planes. FS20 stock planes are like IL-2 BoS and some of the 3rd party planes are DCS on steroids.


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