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#4524272 - 06/07/20 06:23 PM Dear Mr. Jelly  
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Your IM/PM box is full. I wish to contact you concerning long-postponed discussions. I regret the delay.

To those interested: I recently underwent a family death, as well as some minor personal health issues. All of this what the virus ongoing, and my being in an "at-risk" cohort.

The former is being dealt-with, and the latter has been resolved.

I regret that my attention was diverted, but first things first.

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#4524381 - 06/08/20 12:08 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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I have made some space and replied to an earlier PM from you smile


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#4524621 - 06/09/20 12:40 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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Yesterday you replied to a post by FlapsFull oblivious that you had a private message from me which still remains unread frown

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#4525056 - 06/11/20 07:56 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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Still unread- what is going on?


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#4526332 - 06/19/20 04:37 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: MrJelly]  
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Originally Posted by MrJelly
Still unread- what is going on?

My mistake, and remedied. Regret my error.

#4526909 - 06/23/20 07:58 AM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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Any progress with the installations?


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#4527048 - 06/24/20 12:02 AM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: MrJelly]  
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Not attempted so far. The "Honey-Do" list has been a formidable object to overcome, and "She That Must Be Obeyed" (Remember "Rumpole of the Bailey?) has some justifiable complaints.

No matter, will get a good part of the list accomplished, and so back to more serious matters.

Who needs running cars and roofs that don't leak?

Regret the delay,

I assume the latest iteration of V1.60, as linked in your dedicated thread above is GTG? I'll probably delete ALL other versions prior to installing it. Seems wise, all things considered.

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#4531424 - 07/26/20 12:11 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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It is now July 26th frown


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#4531519 - 07/27/20 01:23 AM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: MrJelly]  
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Originally Posted by MrJelly
It is now July 26th frown


The Honey-DO list is always endless. I have not forgotten, but real life has intruded. In the interim, I had to make some very long, non-stop, (900 Miles each way) trips to and from Rhode Island to South Carolina to speak to my sister prior to her passing, plus spending time with her, and her husband and family. Unfortunately, due to the uptick of the "Virus", I will not be able to be present at her interment.

Please understand that I have some real world concerns, In saying this, I mean NO offense to you, whatsoever.

You have a legitimate gripe about my being negligent as to maintaining contact. For that neglect, I apologize. I hope you will understand.

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#4531521 - 07/27/20 01:40 AM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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My condolences. Death of immediate family is always a tragic thing.


Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

Someday your life will flash in front of your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.
#4531523 - 07/27/20 01:45 AM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
My condolences. Death of immediate family is always a tragic thing.


Thank you. Lyn was 6 years older than me, and her death took all of us by surprise. I never expected to survive her. I guess it's different if an elderly relative passes after a long illness; We all are used to that, there being time to adjust. But her death, coming suddenly, is a bit different.

I appreciate your kind comments.

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#4531561 - 07/27/20 10:25 AM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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Thanks for your response. I am sorry to learn of your bad news, and send my condolences.
With no news in more than a month and increasing levels of Covid-19 infections being reported I was beginning to worry wink
If you get chance try to let me know of anything causing further delay.


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#4531589 - 07/27/20 01:41 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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My sympathies, RIBob.

#4531971 - 07/30/20 05:07 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: SkyHigh]  
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Thanks to all for the kind comment;s; much appreciated.

I think it best to purge my computer of all preexisting versions of V1.60. Doing that now prior to downloading the new V1.60 files. Il'' try this on the Win 7 computer before tackling the
win 10 computer, as the Win 7 install should be straightforward.

I assume that the prominent download link in Mr Jelly's pinned thread above is the most up-to date, and includes everything (13th June 2020 link)?



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#4532063 - 07/31/20 06:09 AM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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That's the latest one


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#4532259 - 08/01/20 06:26 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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After uninstalling all previous versions/traces of V1.60, I installed the latest iteration onto my win 7 machine.

It worked, and right off the bat!

Allow me to preface my remarks by saying I am approaching this install basically as a newbie--as I am, to this version of the game, at least.

Some plane sets were not available for some locales, so some experimentation was necessary to select the appropriate plane sets. This might be due to my ignorance.

It seems that all of the menus are so psychedelic as to make some of them unusable, and so I will need to use a wrapper program to correct this issue. From past experience, my Win 7 computer is able to incorporate such without inducing any significant problems. Which wrapper program do you suggest?

#4532330 - 08/02/20 02:57 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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For Win7 I use the d3dWindower if I need to fly single missions to get the correct selection map display. I do not need it for multiplayer at GameRanger, or multiplayer "host-only".

What video card are you using? If it is nVidia then you need to use a glide wrapper such as nGlide to get horizon fog.
My card in an AMD one, so I do not need the glidewrapper.
I do not have scrambled menu pics in Win10 so I do not use the windower program, or the glide wrapper.

Let me know what you are going to try. If you use a glidewrapper then the screen needs to be set to 1024x768 in the "eaw.ini" file.


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#4532478 - 08/03/20 08:31 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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OK, I have an Nvidia GT 1030 graphics card in the Win 7 machine. All the Win 10 machines also have Nvidia cards of various generations--all newer versions

I already have nGlide installed Do I need to make any changes within V1.60 for nGlide itself?. If so, what might they be?

I have D3DWindower in my downloads, so I guess I'll probably install that, and configure it as per MarkEAW's Help site recommendations. With D3DWindower installed and configured for V1.6, are there any settings that need to be tweaked to get D3DWindower set up to work along with nGlide? If so, what might they be?

Thanks!

#4532810 - 08/06/20 07:36 AM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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OK smile
Because you have the nVidia card you will need a glidewrapper in both Win7 and Win10.
When the glide programmers added Glide3 to our version of EAW the screen resolution in the "eaw.ini" file had to be 1024x768 and this is not negotiable.

You must not try to not use the d3dWindower in Win10, so in Win10 it is a matter of experimenting with your glide settings.

In Win7 you need to set the screen height and width to 0 in the d3dWidower configuration to force the exe to use the default settings.
Then you can try the glide settings that work in Win10.

I tried in Win7 this morning using nGlide.

My EAW screen was set to 1024x768 in the "eaw.ini" file. This is essential for Glide3.

My nGlide configuration was this:
[Linked Image]

My monitor screen is 1920x1080 and that is what I used in the nGlide configuration

********************************************************************
I just installed nGlide2.10 on my Win10 PC

These settings worked well:
[Linked Image]



The reason why I only ever use nGlide is that the developer (Zeus) is the person who added the Glide3 code to EAW for me.

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#4532813 - 08/06/20 08:43 AM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: RIBob]  
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I have just experimented with the pressing of Alt-Enter when the game was running with nGlide.
With the settings in the previous post it gives me a window on my main screen, but acts as a toggle, enabling me to see either the rest of the main screen, or a black border.

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#4532935 - 08/07/20 03:45 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: MrJelly]  
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The above screens are very helpful, and I will input them exactly into the Win 7 machine, test nGlide, and then install D3d windower, and test. Mark EAW gives relevant settings doe D3D windower program on his Help site, so I hope all goes well with that aspect of the Win 7 installation.

Assuming so (fingers crossed), then it on to the main event, that of getting V1.60 to run properly on the Win 10 machine. Apparently, I won't need the D3D windower program in that application, and perhaps that will simplify things. We'll see.

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Bob I run EAW with just nglide no 3dwindower Why do you feel you need to use that ?? Just unzip Jellys 1.60 and install nglide and use his settings and launch that pup,,Just remember when you install nglide it installs outside the EAW folder but EAW picks it up..And nglide is for flying glide and you can still fly D3d try both and see what works best on your rig,,Adding too many outside program only causes issues,,I've done a simple 1.60 setup the basic and nglide and no issues but get the base running well fiirst
Just try the base 1.60 and then if you want glide nglide and see where you stand,,You know the old saying KISS


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To clarify smile

On my desktop PC with the Win 7 HDD in the slot the selection screens for the target and home base show a badly garbled map that prevents any selections being made.
This is the case with all versions of EAW, so to fix this I run the d3dWindower in Win 7.

Because I have an AMD card I get horizon fog, so I do not need nGlide in either Win 7 or Win 10.
I have nGlide installed on it just for testing purposes
If I put the Win 10 HDD in the slot I need neither nGlide nor the d3dWindower.

My later Win 10 laptop has a nvidia card, so I use nGlide to get horizon fog.
My old laptop has a nvidia card, and the Vista operating system, so I run nGlide to get horizon fog, and use the d3dWindower to fix the map screen problem. I would have to do the same if it had Win 7 installed.

So Bob, you need to run EAW in Glide mode just with nGlide in Win 10 if you want to get the horizon fog
In Win 7 you need to run EAW in Glide mode with nGlide (if you want to get horizon fog), and via the d3dWindower to fix screen problems.

As less is involved it makes more sense to first get EAW running in Win10 in d3D mode without the d3dWindower
Once you have achieved that you can try running it in glide mode with nGlide.

Once that is working then you can do the same for Win 7, but running it via the d3dWindower.







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Jelly I run EAW in Win7 with nglide and use the DirectDraw compatibility tool and my screens are clean With only the configure game screen a bit fuzzy but the sub choice screens to set stuff up are clear..Never got the hang of D3D Widower..and it works well with stock EAW,,EAWPRO,,and 1.60 Using a Geforce 1050 that Bob gifted me...Maybe I'll give the Widower program another try and see how it goes but I never was able to get it to fill the screen


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I have just sent you a PM showing you my D3DWindower and nGlide settings for Windows 7


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#4533063 - 08/09/20 05:45 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: MrJelly]  
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Originally Posted by MrJelly
Russ smile

I have just sent you a PM showing you my D3DWindower and nGlide settings for Windows 7


Would you please send the identical PM to me, as well?

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My Win7 D3DWindower set-up with nGlide

The first essential is the "eaw.ini" being set to 1024x768
The Glide code in the 160 exe requires this resolution, and it is not negotiable:

[GRAPHICS]
Width=1024
Height=768
**************************************
Then the D3DWindower:
[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]
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Then nGlide:
[Linked Image]

My monitor is 1920x1080 and with these settings the full screen height is used in the game, but because the 1024x768 ini resolution is in the 4:3 ratio I do not get the full width. The width is actually 1440, but I do get a round gunsight. and not an oval one due to stretching.

I launch EAW via the windower by double clicking the eaw icon in the main Windower window.
Sometimes it does not launch first time with Win 7 and I have to try again.


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#4535116 - 08/28/20 10:21 PM Re: Dear Mr. Jelly [Re: MrJelly]  
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Originally Posted by MrJelly
My Win7 D3DWindower set-up with nGlide

The first essential is the "eaw.ini" being set to 1024x768
The Glide code in the 160 exe requires this resolution, and it is not negotiable:

[GRAPHICS]
Width=1024
Height=768
**************************************
Then the D3DWindower:
[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]
**************************************
Then nGlide:
[Linked Image]

My monitor is 1920x1080 and with these settings the full screen height is used in the game, but because the 1024x768 ini resolution is in the 4:3 ratio I do not get the full width. The width is actually 1440, but I do get a round gunsight. and not an oval one due to stretching.

I launch EAW via the windower by double clicking the eaw icon in the main Windower window.
Sometimes it does not launch first time with Win 7 and I have to try again.


That is most helpful, and I will incorporate your suggestions into my Win 7 rig.

Once I have that running properly, and by that I mean full updates for your version of the game, and possible add-ons, as you suggest, I'll report back.

As it is now, I am in "high-season" to do many outdoor projects, many of which have demanded by "She That Must Be Obeyed". Since I live in the same house, these things also benefit me.,

Stand-by for an upcoming Win 7 review, and then a branching-out to Win 10.

I certainly apologize for my tardiness in response, but, with all respect, real life takes precedence.

All the best, RIBob

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